Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Lol. High maintenance ladies that like their creature comforts!
Keepgrowing wrote: » Be better using more beef bulls and slaughtering or better still selling as calves
Keepgrowing wrote: » I love a nice and simple system of getting milk out the gate with as little labour input or complications
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » I reckon that the drought has lead to a forage shortage so demand is plummeting. In the last 5-6yrs I've seen, there has only been one year where dairy stock made reasonable money. We're doing calf to beef and there's much better returns than producing dairy replacements.
Keepgrowing wrote: » Loads of stock available here for sub €1200 with the exception of well bred Xbreds which are as scarce as hens teeth. This price has seen no inflation. Each heifer calved into our parlour stands at €1324 each and that's not counting the % lost from first to second lactation. For me it's way more profitable to milk these ladies and cull from the bottom of our herd. We are now aiming for minimal dairy ai, just enough to cover replacement rare and will buy stock if extra are required, it's just too expensive to rear heifers
mahoney_j wrote: » Agree with most of that ,I take it I weren’t at Lisduff sale last Saturday ????.hol calves making over 1 k in calf heifers and milking heifers up to 2700 well bred hol stock with good records etc will always command a premium and tbf good x bred stock will do but at much lower prices ,seen nice first cross psq heifers from milky hols make 1400 recently
yewtree wrote: » Those sales from high profile herds are no reflection of the commerical market though, its the name thats adding to the price.
Gawddawggonnit wrote: That green stuff that they'd have to eat in Ireland would kill them in no time...is it possible that pure hols would consider Ireland a hell hole?
blackdog1 wrote: » I have alot of French and Dutch bred pure holsteins in my farm and I find them no bother. They're good size animals with great solids not as big as Canadian and US holsteins and suit the Irish system well. I feed them about 1.2-1.5 tonne each.
mahoney_j wrote: » We’re talking top stock here tho and also on the x bred side .the sale of Lisduff in particular is very top end and attracts buyers from all over my simple point top quality well bred stock will always command a premium and rightly so
freedominacup wrote: » They're not as tall but they tip the scales at big weights. Weighed two culls yesterday. Still milking. 730kg. Use mainly Dutch and French bulls here also.
Keepgrowing wrote: » Lisduff isn't the commercial reality, very far from it. The reality is stock aren't commanding their cost of production in almost all scenarios.
K.G. wrote: » Those stock are grand as long as the ration lorry keeps coming.alot of those sales rely on fellas buying from each other but hoping to suck in a few pound from joe soap.that said if they can make money from these kind a cows drive on.all i know any time i bought a few they never did well here.its like looking at porn-getting all excited about looking at girls that really are nt as good as the figures(pictures) and you probaly have better at home already only to mind themðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Keepgrowing wrote: » I love the Dutch stock, great powerful cows. Would that be your average weight and what kgms solids will they sell with adequate feeding?
mahoney_j wrote: » Without offending you ,should u not ask yourself they did not last or even why you bought stock like that .lot of lads incorrectly blaming the cow when in fact it’s the image staring back at them in the mirror ....... I wouldn’t touch stock from a lot of the ihfa herds as a lot just breed for type and milk when it’s milk solids and fertility and good functional traits like feet and unders that should be the aim
whelan2 wrote: » Bought 6 nice fr heifer calves 5 weeks old. €275 delivered. They'll do me
K.G. wrote: » No offence taken at all.its just that as quota was scarce ration feeding was at the minimum side and that dosnt suit them.but its not as simple as backing in the ration truck either and thats where kg comes unstuck.but for the future the system for me is maximum grass,maximum ration but minimum silage.at least until the costs change to dictate a different system.alot of nz fr in the herd but now firmly backing ebi from ireland.notice cows seem to be getting smaller but that could be my heifer rearing skills too
Timmaay wrote: » Your pushing up the autumn numbers more? With all this talk about stock, I'm looking out for 25ish Feb calving heifers, ideally xbred, if anyone knows of a group for sale like that.
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » That's due to the maintenance figure being used to promote a smaller type of cow. And your heifer rearing skills:D
Floki wrote: » There's lads operating flying herds now buying in milky "cull" cows not incalf for 7 - 800. Milking over the winter and fattening the following year. Granted it'll only work with Holsteins and if the farmer selling them wants a compact calving season. Not sure how long these buyers will be able to keep going with the swing to smaller high ebi lower volume higher fertility cows?
whelan2 wrote: » See a local farmer with empty cows for sale for 1200 euro !
Timmaay wrote: Your pushing up the autumn numbers more? With all this talk about stock, I'm looking out for 25ish Feb calving heifers, ideally xbred, if anyone knows of a group for sale like that.
Floki wrote: » There must be more lads and lassies following this business model so if they're looking for that sort of money.:pac:
kevthegaff wrote: » Looking for similar tim
alps wrote: » Is that going on ground that will be grazed again before closing?. We're really short of ground to spread on, and just wondering if we could dribble or inject into ground we would be grazing in 15 to 20 days time, would it be ok...
