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retro:electro

Right so let's pick up where we left off!
Lately I've noticed Chloe Boucher is being let absolutely raid Penneys and take anything she wants. She seems to only be using the hashtag #iworkwithpenneys and not #ad which it should be. Literally once a month she does the biggest hauls and it's all for free, but no mention of it being an ad or sponsored. I think Penneys think they can get around that by asking them to use #iworkwithpenneys as I've seen a few influencers use the same.

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gossipgirl10

A group of bloggers off to Ibiza with Kevin Murphy hair products don't see any #ad or #sp on any posts so far

Wexy86

Have to say I’m so disappointed in Jennifer Rock and her brand at her collab. I attended a skincare evening and she was the guest speaker and she must of said it at least 10 times that the only way to get the right skincare is to get a consultation and buy the cosmeceuticals range that was only able from skincare specialist.

Ladies literally queued for 2 hours to get a quick consult and buy the high end Image and Environ products. And then she goes and says a few euro product will do the job, i’d be majorly píssed off if I’d dropped a few hundred based on her recommendation from hearing her speak or from the online consultation she offered.

I highly doubt if I paid for her online consultation she’d be recommending I pop into penneys for my skincare requirements

retro:electro

gossipgirl10 wrote: »

A group of bloggers off to Ibiza with Kevin Murphy hair products don't see any #ad or #sp on any posts so far

Just looks like a big piss up as well!

lisasimpson

The kevin murphy thing seems to be a regular thing . Never heard of him until JJ went on one of those trips even though she doesnt drink.
Although i wish he would fix her roots

Sunny Dayz

gossipgirl10 wrote: »

A group of bloggers off to Ibiza with Kevin Murphy hair products don't see any #ad or #sp on any posts so far

I don't think any of the people I follow are on that. But what has sending bloggers off on a free holiday got to do with hair products? Unless they are going to demonstrate how to use the products to look after your hair in the pool or sun? Which is pretty much pointless seeing as the summer is over! Why not send them somewhere cold and wet to show how you can use the products over the coming 6 months (as I type this beside the radiator looking out at the lashing rain!)

retro:electro

To me it just looks like a massive piss up. They were all on the sauce all day yesterday on what was meant to be a work trip. I'm not sure if it's the kind of promotion I'd want if it was my brand. It doesdnt reflect well, imo.

SpillingTheTea

anna080 wrote: »

To me it just looks like a massive piss up. They were all on the sauce all day yesterday on what was meant to be a work trip. I'm not sure if it's the kind of promotion I'd want if it was my brand. It doesdnt reflect well, imo.

Sorry but this trip takes the biscuit for me in terms of ‘press trip’. Like what does Ibiza got to do with haircare? Maybe I’m missing something but it just seems like an excuse for a holiday

heyjude88

So Grace is at the cups for cancer coffee morning. She has #ad on the snaps.

I know we had this with the cherrios childline last year, I just think its so bad to have to be paid to attend a charity event.
Now, I understand the panel (Pippa etc) and the MC (Doireann) getting paid as they are providing a service and their skills etc. But Grace and the others are being paid to just attend and sit there.
Pippa had no #ad up.....

Lindy97

My sister used to work for a childrens charity and they never used celebs who asked for payment for their events. Plenty were willing to give up their time for free or without publicity, especially GAA and Irish sports stars.
The MC's I can sort of justify as there would be a certain amount of work involved but to just show up and snap a bit...nope. Its not justifiable in my opinion

gossipgirl10

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

I don't think any of the people I follow are on that. But what has sending bloggers off on a free holiday got to do with hair products? Unless they are going to demonstrate how to use the products to look after your hair in the pool or sun? Which is pretty much pointless seeing as the summer is over! Why not send them somewhere cold and wet to show how you can use the products over the coming 6 months (as I type this beside the radiator looking out at the lashing rain!)

Ya seriously it's just 6 girls getting bananas in a villa I don't know what it has to do with the hair products so far aside from the fact the hair products were in the bathroom when they arrived.

Not to be a kill joy or anything but it looks like the kind of girls holiday you wouldn't really be broadcasting on your Snapchat when they opened the fridge all that was in it was drink and they had guys there showing them how to make cocktails later didn't see anything hair related. I'd say they have loads of young followers I think it's pretty irresponsible of a brand to set this up and have teens who look up to them thinking that's how they should act on their nights out.

Also they seem to be trying to outdo each other to see who is the wildest

retro:electro

Sorry but it's actually gross that Grace took money for going to that Breast Cancer charity event and taking a few snaps.

groovyg

Charities are businesses and like all businesses they have to pay for things. There seems to be this idea out there that if something is for charity its for free its not. So if there are asking influencers to come along - then they pay them simples.

BasicBetty

anna080 wrote: »

Sorry but it's actually gross that Grace took money for going to that Breast Cancer charity event and taking a few snaps.

Not sure if anyone actually looked into this but the event was to launch a partnership between Centra and The Irish Cancer Society. Centra will obviously have been the ones paying for the event/people to attend. And while I agree its a shame money has had to exchange hands, every charity organisation will have a marketing budget and whether Grace took the money or not, it would remain in that budget and not be donated elsewhere.

Lindy97

I see the point about it being a co run event between Centra and the ICS, and also about charities being businesses but my point still stands. Celebs and these people could give up their time for free to give causes a bit of publicity, like I said my sister used to work for a rather big one and celebs would regularly do it free so it's not a prerequisite to get paid (especially if it's one that it close to their hearts). The money can therefore be used in other campaigns badly needed for fundraising.
Putting up #ad or #sp just ads it to all the other crap they promote in exchange for money and makes it look as disingenuous as everything else they do.

Martina1991

Lindy97 wrote: »

Putting up #ad or #sp just ads it to all the other crap they promote in exchange for money and makes it look as disingenuous as everything else they do.

I agree. FBG went to a Cheerios Childline event a while ago, but before the event said she was going to a Barnardos event.

Looked disingenuous to not remember the name of the charity before you go to it.

Ray37

Sorry, I think accepting payment from a charity is disgusting, unless your job is with that charity. My God like, if I was in the position to be offered money to attend a charity event, I'd tell them to just donate it and go anyway. I think accepting payment from a charity is so low, that's my opinion and I've always thought this way. It's a horrible thing to do, of course charities have marketing budgets etc, but surely if you are a sound enough person you'd go along for free?

RoisinClare6

Ray37 wrote: »

Sorry, I think accepting payment from a charity is disgusting, unless your job is with that charity. My God like, if I was in the position to be offered money to attend a charity event, I'd tell them to just donate it and go anyway. I think accepting payment from a charity is so low, that's my opinion and I've always thought this way. It's a horrible thing to do, of course charities have marketing budgets etc, but surely if you are a sound enough person you'd go along for free?

Definitely agree ray, accepting money from a charity that are cleary trying to raise funds does not sit with me. Especially in graces case ad she was only recently raising money for a cancer charity that was there for her dad when he was ill.

retro:electro

Surely any decent person would decline the fee and insist it goes to the cause? It's not like she was even participating in anything she was literally just sitting there holding her phone. If it was me in her position and I was asked, I'd be mortified to even be offered payment nevermind take it. It's all take take take with most of these people. Using your platform to raise awareness for an hour for something as important as this should be something you're proud and willing to do sans payment.

Ray37

Like the very idea of charity is doing something that isnt for YOURSELF. I'm not attacking just bloggers either like, celebs who do it are a joke too. God, it turns my stomach that people actually accept money from charities.

retro:electro

It's like the time they were all snapping asking us to donate to childline, meanwhile they're taking money from childline in payment for the ad.

fussyonion

Grace is gone very greedy. It sickens me.

SpillingTheTea

I’m sorry, I get that charities have sponsors and a contingency for payment for this type of thing, but it literally sickens me who takes money for something like this. Are people that hard pressed that they need money to sit and have coffee? Like if that was me I would totally waive my fee and let it go directly to the charity. It’s so disingenuous and greedy imo.

MuffinTop86

Did Centra pay them or the charities? It sounded from Pippa's snaps that it was Centra and she works with them anyway.
If it was the charity I totally agree it's tight to take money for sitting on your phone, but when you consider a number of these charity bosses are on 6 figure salaries they don't feel bad about it.

wendydoll

I'm heavily involved with 2 charities, one covers all expenses I have if I have to attend events, fuel, parking costs, lunches etc. It's a nice offer but not once have I ever put in receipts to be reimbursed my expenses. It would make no sense to taking money I helped raise and put it into my pocket. So to accept money to attend an event seems in very ill taste.

heyjude88

Both Pippa and Doireann have worked with centra in the past so presume it was them paying them!
I've deleted so many bloggers I don't even know if anyone else was there besides Grace?

Ray37

I just re added Terrie for a look there. The snaps are just girls screaming and running around locked? I'm adding Kevin Murphy to MY LIST (lol) of forever avoided brands. If I see his name once more I'll flip. I recall Lisa Jordan promoting him non stop a few months ago and it did my head in then too. What has a trip to Ibiza got to do with hair stuff? Like if you really want to promote your product, I can think of a million actually effective ways to do it? Why not have them doing snaps explaining what's in the products, why it's good for your hair, and how it differs to other brands on the market? Getting pissed in the sun isn't gonna make me want your stuff like.

Cria

Just as I thought grace couldn’t get any lower I’m actually disgusted ,,

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I don't want to keep banging on about it but I'm super let down by the skin nerd. I'm fanatical about skincare and really admired her and respected her. Seeing her sell out to pennies, I'm over it to be honest. I said it straight out to her and she replied saying she still loves image but doesn't want to alienate people by sticking with expensive brands and so many bloggers are giving incorrect beauty advice to these people. She said she understood my point - why would I spend between 250/300 euro every 3 months on products if I can go into pennies and get my skin care products for 50? She was polite but a bit defensive but tbh idgaf anymore. I'd take anything she says with a pinch of salt. There's so many good decent budget skin care ranges she could have discussed but money talks and she sold out

SpillingTheTea

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I don't want to keep banging on about it but I'm super let down by the skin nerd. I'm fanatical about skincare and really admired her and respected her. Seeing her sell out to pennies, I'm over it to be honest. I said it straight out to her and she replied saying she still loves image but doesn't want to alienate people by sticking with expensive brands and so many bloggers are giving incorrect beauty advice to these people. She said she understood my point - why would I spend between 250/300 euro every 3 months on products if I can go into pennies and get my skin care products for 50? She was polite but a bit defensive but tbh idgaf anymore. I'd take anything she says with a pinch of salt. There's so many good decent budget skin care ranges she could have discussed but money talks and she sold out

‘Why would you spend 250/300 every 3month?’ Oh maybe because she was saying it was the holy grail! Can she not understand that because she’s flip flopping, her opinion is not worth much anymore. If her intention is to promote affordable skincare to the masses, then surely she’d be able to talk about the brand The Ordindary? Their products are fab and range from 7-30 odd euro, but they last long enough. It seems to me she’s just delighted to finally get into the #IWorkWithPenneys gang...

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Oh no she didn't ask why I'm spending it, I said it to her why bother if I can go into pennies and get quality skincare without bothering with skin boosts etc - she said she still stands by those products