Marlow wrote: » The thing is, what's being done here now, has been done in Scandinavia over 10 years ago. /M
BarryM wrote: » ...is still being done, Finland has 100Mb everywhere, provided as a subsidised infrastucture, for operators to plug in to. Our wafflers spent 2+years waiting for EU agreement to "provide state aid" and haven't yet even started to do it.
BarryM wrote: » ... +, the remark about eir upstaging the NBP in a post above doesn't make sense, even if it is probably true. eir want to get a major bit of the NBP, to subsidise their already high pricing, but want to be paid to do the hard bits, so, why bypass the easy parts (revenue generating areas) to do the relatively hard parts? Doesn't make sense to me.
ED E wrote: » Not really. Huawei are one of/the biggest OEM in the space, OE is their trial partner. Yes copper may be close to EOL but VDS2+INP+Supervector is in no way outdated yet. Its bleeding edge...
BarryM wrote: » So, a properly planned and executed plan would allow for everybody to have the CHOICE. All we want is that.
Marlow wrote: » That would require the NBP to be defined and executed right. I'll leave that here. Right now, what the NBP does, is that houses who are marked as part of the NBP already and who get passed with Fiber, can't avail of the service, as Eir is not permitted to connect them. So it actually does the entire opposite. /M
ED E wrote: » Pedant: FI isn't Scandinavia, its Fennoscandia Also they have a large cohort on 700Mhz LTE as fixed line services just don't make sense in the north/east.
Marlow wrote: » Right now, what the NBP does, is that houses who are marked as part of the NBP already and who get passed with Fiber, can't avail of the service, as Eir is not permitted to connect them.
The Cush wrote: » Discussed here previously, there is no such clause, in fact properties in the NBP have have been connected.
Marlow wrote: » Still seems to be a problem for people though, as it is clear from the discussion in the Eir Fibre Rollout Map thread. I've come across the same scenario myself in some areas
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » It is possible that the 6122 figure as quoted by the Department is the correct figure for premises connected under the rural 300,000 scheme.http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/latest-news/Pages/Latest-News.aspx Richard Moat mentions 12000 in a Silicon Republic interview. Perhaps this is their combined FTTH connection number (urban and rural). Although he does mention rural he may be confusing the totals or he may have been misquoted.https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/eir-richard-moat
KOR101 wrote: » And remember, the 6122 connections were for the over 70,000 homes 'passed'. So, we're already talking about a puzzlingly low take-up rate. The question mark in my mind was more about whether those 70,000 were really ready for connection. If Marlow has an inside track to real number it would be fascinating.
Blogin wrote: » 70 euro a month is just too high. Most people I know won't be getting it. All they need is a basic internet service and mobile broadband does that at 1/3 of the price.
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » There is a 150Mb standalone broadband product available for €55 per month. It's not quite as cheap as mobile but it is so much better.https://www.eir.ie/opencms/export/sites/default/.content/pdf/pricing/Part3.1.pdf
Marlow wrote: » Right now, what the NBP does,
as Eir is not permitted to connect them.
Marlow wrote: » Jup. In Denmark rural homes got connected with GigE interface by the electricity providers over a decade ago .. before Urban services were rolled out. The reason being, that no planning was needed in rural areas and villages. In the cities they had to apply for planning and were only allowed to open the roads when other services in the road had been notified so that works could be combined. In Sweden urban areas got VDSL and FTTH even before that. /M
rob808 wrote: » I want to pre-order 150mb I have broadband only option on my DSL.The girl I call early in the month from Eir said that my line could cease if I pre-order.I wonder would she being confused think it was FTTC couldn't see my DSl being turn off before I get FTTH.
Marlow wrote: » In Galway Eir bypassed some dense suburbs with no decent broadband and then enabled small enclaves around Galway Bay and Lough Corrib. Those builds show more like attempts to remove areas from the NBP, so that nobody gets funding to serve them. /M
turbbo wrote: » I can vouch for this in Castletroy, Limerick - not planned until end of 2018 yet they have a bunch of rural areas already live in the county. If thats not some attempt at grabbing NBP areas I don't know what it is. If Siro had any cop they would be in there hoovering up areas like this, swiping them out from Eirs grasp.
addict wrote: » Order by post code only then your sure of not losing service
cnocbui wrote: » I thought the purpose of the rural FTTH program was to provide decent speeds to rural people who have never had them due to distance. I doubt the average speeds available to people in Castletroy is as low as for rural people 2km+ from the nearest exchange or fiber cabinet.
turbbo wrote: » Lol - fastest broadband available to me on that exchange is 3mbs!! 58 houses on that same exchange in the same boat give or take a mb or 2. So no those in rural areas are also connected to urban exchanges just outside urban areas - these areas are strategically being ignored that was the point. I wasn’t talking about urban, just areas that are rural but high density. Their seems to be an assumption by other providers that these areas are already covered by Eir but they’re not so Eir can leave them on the long finger and get back to them later.
savemejebus wrote: » Don't virgin do cable based broadband out in castletroy though?
