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Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II off topic discussion

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magicbastarder

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Interesting that they never came forward until now, would you say? There is robust legislative protection for employees - employers treat legitimate complaints seriously.

are you serious?

OleRodrigo

magicbastarder wrote: »

are you serious?

Are you being deliberately accusatory ? Its just a discussion.

Harrybelafonte

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Are you being deliberately accusatory ? Its just a discussion.

Ah. The truth is out. It's only banter lads.

OleRodrigo

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Ah. The truth is out. It's only banter lads.

Well I guess the SJW style attack was gonna come sooner or later.

RayCun

OleRodrigo wrote: »

SJW

It's great how much three simple letters can tell you about the person who uses them.

rollingscone

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Well I guess the SJW style attack was gonna come sooner or later.

Social Justice and Warrior. Three Terrible things.

Who'd want to be accused of fighting for justice when they could just be safely and comfortably complicit in systemic wrongdoing.

Time to consider abandoning my values of human decency and fairness in favour of extenalising all my problems and personal failings taking them out on easy targets and building a self justifying fantasy world to live in.

You've won me over. Take me with you on your noble quest!

OleRodrigo

RayCun wrote: »

It's great how much three simple letters can tell you about the person who uses them.

Absolutely. You might be surprised though.

magicbastarder

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Are you being deliberately accusatory ? Its just a discussion.

it was a genuine question. i know people who have been fired after raising issues with their employers. one of them fired *after* winning cases in the LRC.

employers generally like employees not to raise a fuss.

and you made the claim that 'they never came forward until now'. how do you know? we certainly heard about it because a) there were 20 of them this time and b) it was following an active news story.

Harrybelafonte

OleRodrigo wrote: »

Well I guess the SJW style attack was gonna come sooner or later.

Well done. Slow clap. Well done. Let it all out now.

OleRodrigo

magicbastarder wrote: »

it was a genuine question. i know people who have been fired after raising issues with their employers. one of them fired *after* winning cases in the LRC.

employers generally like employees not to raise a fuss.

and you made the claim that 'they never came forward until now'. how do you know? we certainly heard about it because a) there were 20 of them this time and b) it was following an active news story.

That's a fair point. Still seems odd though. How could an organisation function when 1/3 of the people have beef with one member of staff ? Even by the standards of the entertainment industry it seems quite dysfunctional.

magicbastarder

heh. a friend of mine works in an organisation where 95% of people have a beef with one member of staff. the problem is that one member of staff is the boss.

that's a rather trite example, but i suspect that if there is a problematic member of staff in an organisation, 1/3 of the people having an issue is not unusual. but this could be an unusual case - it's possible (i've not seen the letter from the newstalk staff) that this was a 'referendum' on hook, rather than something that could constitute an official complaint.

tomasrojo

magicbastarder wrote: »

i find the whole 'free speech' part of the debate interesting. he's literally paid to voice his opinions, and he's not entitled to keep a job if his opinions are substandard. i'm not entitled to keep my job if i'm doing it badly.
it's not a free speech issue.

In particular, he's not entitled to keep a job if his opinions lose revenue instead of bringing it in. Whether he comes back after suspension will hinge mostly on what Newstalk think the advertisers will make of it, I presume.

Lusk_Doyle

Listened to the right hook today. It was during a piece on religion and the COI. Quite interesting and well balanced. Enjoyed it.

tomasrojo

Hook's Twitter account deleted now.

magicbastarder

donald clarke's column on the back page of the weekend section of the IT is usually entertaining - he has a pop at hook in today's one:

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/lord-hook-hook-voice-of-the-permanently-offended-1.3219636

Rogue-Trooper

Had a harrowing couple of days. While inquiring after the wellbeing of a work colleague when I noticed they "weren't themselves", they confided in me that they were considering taking their own life. This is someone who would be a bit of a joker and I nearly missed the seriousness of it thinking it was just a bad joke. Not so on this occasion. This is someone who has a partner and a strong circle of family and friends, but still had managed to get to this point.

I intervened and thankfully I can report that they are now getting the professional support they need and are hopefully on a road to being in a better place. I'll be honest though, the experience has shook me to my core.

I know this is the cycling OT thread and this post is uncharacteristically serious for me, but the reason I am posting this is just to urge people to check in with family, friends or colleagues if you think something is amiss and for god's sake don't ignore any potential signs. You never know, you might be the one that makes the difference.

eeeee

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-sporting-body-by-chris-froome-fbcfpk8cp

Aaargh my eyes

robyntmorton

nee wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-sporting-body-by-chris-froome-fbcfpk8cp

Aaargh my eyes

I am absolutely required to hate you now.

Also, burn that saddle, or did they mount him directly to the seat post?

eeeee

robyntmorton wrote: »

I am absolutely required to hate you now.

Also, burn that saddle, or did they mount him directly to the seat post?

I can't think about it.
It's the smile, the smile is the worst bit ðŸ˜©

Interesting idea and series. Ian Hutchinson's one's pretty incredible.

magicbastarder

the rediscovery centre in ballymun, who run a scheme a bit like rothar, have 25% off all bikes for the next week.
it's where i bought my single speed a few weeks ago, and i think a friend just bought one there today too.

https://www.facebook.com/RediscoveryCentre/photos/a.224457550951089.56893.114424785287700/1559698297427001/?type=3

magicbastarder

my friend popped around this evening; couldn't believe his luck, got an 18 speed raleigh, probably 10 years old, in perfect nick and recently serviced in the rediscovery centre, for 90 quid.

Chuchote

magicbastarder wrote: »

my friend popped around this evening; couldn't believe his luck, got an 18 speed raleigh, probably 10 years old, in perfect nick and recently serviced in the rediscovery centre, for 90 quid.

What's the rediscovery centre?

Chuchote

RayCun wrote: »

And clearly the market has decided that there are consequences for that kind of presentation. You don't have to have a job on national radio.

It's always funny how quickly people can go from

"I'm a no-holds-barred truth-teller, puncturing your PC pretensions, and I don't care if you're offended - you can suck it up, snowflake!"

to

"What do you mean, you were offended and now you're doing something about it? That's not fair! "

https://twitter.com/colettebrowne/status/909330403051425792

magicbastarder

Chuchote wrote: »

What's the rediscovery centre?

http://www.rediscoverycentre.ie/about-us/

there's a nice cafe there too.

Chuchote

Sounds good.

Pigeon Reaper

My car has broken down and I'm now seriously considering not replacing it. I used it for about 1000km a year as opposed to cycling 14000km. Maybe an ebike is the way to go for days when I don't feel like cycling.

CramCycle

Our car broke down last week. A short time travelling on DB by my partner means our car has been fixed ASAP. I don't mind DB but my partner doesn't know the unwritten rules about where to sit etc.

An electric bike would have been a good suggestion but they are just not there yet.

Lusk_Doyle

CramCycle wrote: »

Our car broke down last week. A short time travelling on DB by my partner means our car has been fixed ASAP. I don't mind DB but my partner doesn't know the unwritten rules about where to sit etc.

An electric bike would have been a good suggestion but they are just not there yet.

Eh, what? On the saddle, surely? Or is there something that I also don't know?!?!

Darkglasses

CramCycle wrote: »

Our car broke down last week. A short time travelling on DB by my partner means our car has been fixed ASAP. I don't mind DB but my partner doesn't know the unwritten rules about where to sit etc.

An electric bike would have been a good suggestion but they are just not there yet.

There's unwritten rules about where to sit?

LollipopJimmy

Darkglasses wrote: »

There's unwritten rules about where to sit?

DB = Dublin Bike/Dublin Bus :pac: