FeelTheBern wrote: » Getting back to the beef tracker theme... I can't figure out how cow could be worth this much to someone for factory unless making about €3.80 a kilo? Or am I missing something
Cavanjack wrote: » As long as there are farmers to provide an oversupply of Cattle to the factories they will be in the driving seat. Not a whole lot we can do. Anyway load going off this week @ €3.80 for steers.
valtra2 wrote: » Will stick to the mart I think. 1760 925kg 9year old
rangler1 wrote: » Here's a fair question then, if these knowalls know so much about the inconsistencies in factories, why don't they follow it up. I don't care what any report says, a friend used to claim that the paper in them was a bit hard for what he'd use them for. Quoting Public service doesn't impress me as you know
rangler1 wrote: » Next Saturday, it'll be a big ask, 350 ewes for sale, 2.30 in TULLAMORE MART, Thanks for giving the lead in to advertise it
mf240 wrote: » You were only there because that's where the bus let you off.
rangler1 wrote: » I was always brought to meetings with politicians because of my PR skills, pity more farmers aren't capable of putting the boot in when there's an issue
mf240 wrote: » He's going into public relations. That kind of charismatic personality was wasted on the sheep
Base price wrote: » When is your sale - sometime early September from memory.
Base price wrote: » In fairness Rangler you are thoroughly consistent. Your above response is more or less a carbon copy of your previous response to my simular previous post. Here is a clip from 2008 DEFRA report - https://screenshots.firefox.com/gyncaZhq3lyNHZ6k/webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk From the original DEFRA report http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20110318141910/http://www.defra.gov.uk/evidence/economics/foodfarm/reports/carcaseclassification/Full%20Version.pdf
rangler1 wrote: » Time to retire, time marching on etc etc
gerryirl wrote: » your finishing farming .. can I ask why?
rangler1 wrote: » I've asked plenty for proof of what's claimed here and there was none, and I've learnt the hard way to not go into anything just on a farmers say so, so forgive me if i sound sceptical. I'm finishing farming now but I'd only be delighted to hear a farmer actually putting some effort into these claims, but it's not gonna happen so we just have read more and more of this rubbish
Base price wrote: » Here we go again Can anyone explain to me why there are no figure/results published on the required EU mandatory checks by our Dept on VIA (Video Image Analysis) machines in the meat factories/plants where they are used to classify the carcasses that we are paid on. As far as I remember at the time (2002/2003?), the State - that's you, I and every citizen paid (at considerable cost to the exchequer) for the purchase and instillation of VIA equipment in meat plants. I remember because at the time there was controversy in Brussels that it amounted to State intervention within the beef industry which was not allowed, however it seems to have been ignored possibly due to IFA intervention? Since we (the State) paid for the machines - thereby giving the factories a big freggin financial leg up - we have a right to have access to all the data, in particular EU mandatory checks by factory. I have stated previously on another simular thread that a FOI request needs to be submitted to obtain this information. Edit: seems to me there is no appetite to request such info - rock the boat too much etc, etc...
rangler1 wrote: » No, just proving that you haven't the courage of your convictions, It's simple, Either it's true or not.....As they say in After Hours ''Pics or gtfo'' ....at the moment it just sounds lame, sad even, Incidentally if you do put these guy outa business who are you putting in their place, there's no one queueing up to buy factories
Willfarman wrote: » The wealth of an industry worth 2.5 billion a year to the detriment of entire rural economy is in the control of half dozen families. There is no one to take up the gauntlet for the down trodden. The list of scandals that Larry goodman has come through unscathed would prove you are talking out of your proverbial rangler.
Never wrestle with pigs wrote: » Not hearsay, I've worked inside one of the big ones and saw allot. Who would listen? The just as bent ifa? Oh ya the factory collects their wage too! The dep of agg? They do what they want it's as simple as they that.
rangler1 wrote: » I see, You won't act on hearsay but you expect someone else to........riiiggggght.
Never wrestle with pigs wrote: » Exactly why I am not allowed to prove it to you. It would be illegal. I'm not going to start an argument with you over it because I might as well be talking to a plank. The more people that talk about it the better as someone in power might eventually pull the finger out. But I doubt it.
