Mellor wrote: » Fair play Walshb. The result was as you (and many others) said it would be. But it's also refreshing for you to hold up your hands and highlight the parts you got wrong. You're in a clear minority, and my hat is off to you. I'm finding some of the goalpost moving today to be comical.PreFight "He won't land a punch" "He won't last 3 rounds" "[Insert spoofy bet comment]" Then trying to somehow acting like the fight and result justified those opinions. LoLWut?
Sweet Science wrote: » Conor wasn't the reason the fight lasted 10 rounds . It was Floyds . As usual he wanted a finish but only when there was literally no risk attached to it I thought Conor was really poor . I genuinely did . His power didn't translate and he was breathing out his ass after 2 rounds . Any other boxer not obsessed by his unbeaten record would of had him out of there . People saying Conor landed all these punches . Its more embarrassing that Floyd was literally walking him down in a straight line . maybe I'm a bitter boxing snob
walshb wrote: » You seem to be a snob..walking him down and landing eff all.. Take the rose tinted boxing glasses off.. Conor is not a boxer. I get this. He'd be decimated by several pro boxers out there, which makes Floyd's performance, or should I say, struggle even more leaky! Don't you think it sad that it appeared that the only area where Floyd was superior last night was stamina?
walshb wrote: » That's just it. I have no reason to be anything but honest. I said it from the start. The result and whatever happens makes no difference to me. Boxing moves on. The sport I love moves on. I never considered this an actual boxing contest. Floyd is still 49-9 for me..nothing has changed for me throughout this..
Sweet Science wrote: » Conor wasn't the reason the fight lasted 10 rounds . It was Floyds . As usual he wanted a finish but only when there was literally no risk attached to it
Beechwoodspark wrote: » I'm a very casual observer of both mma and boxing. I was struck by mcgregor, the younger man, being fatigued after say round 4 while mayweather seemed in good nick right up until the finish. Is it a different training regime that explains this? Mayweather aim was to last the distance whereas mcgregor was hoping to go in hard and early and hope it does the job but if it didn't, he's in serious trouble?
StringerBell wrote: » It's something that seems to be getting lost alright, when you are constantly walking someone down in a straight line you are going to take contact, it's not like it was counter punch masterclass mayweather He knew what he was in there against, he knew there was nothing to trouble him and he would be fighting a punching bag in the mid to late rounds. I don't like mayweather but he knew what he wanted to do and did it
pelevin wrote: » I didn't watch it myself - a bit interested but far from the point of watching it in the middle of the night - and I presume it was very, very, very, etc unlikely to be other than a Mayweather win. One thing that strikes me though is the people saying what a farce of a mismatch it was, a farce, McGregor was a joke & so on, a comedy of an event . . .And yet they still watched it. Is there so little going on in people's lives?!
ThinkProgress wrote: » His gameplan was so incredibly simple. But effective! Why are more MMA fans not talking about Conor's complete lack of punching power?? Against a smaller man... So many people, were convinced that Conor's power would be a factor, at least in the early rounds. But it wasn't at all. I think even Conor was surprised by Floyd's total lack of respect for his punches.
walshb wrote: » The most glaringly unimpressive area from Floyd was his defence.. Apart from getting hit a fair bit, his D came across as more desperation as opposed to composed and effortless.. Almost cowering at times, as well as that real desperation of turning his back completely..., and trying to blame Conor.. Floyd for me is cooked, and I hope he stays retired... I said it a while ago that the top WWs today would be too much for him.. He has next to no offence, at least in the sense of elite.
Lukker- wrote: » Errol Spence would probably KO him
Lukker- wrote: » On punching power, it doesn't directly translate from sport to sport. Conor literally touches people in MMA and they fall down, but that is as much to do with his timing and precision in 4oz gloves. He knows how to find the soft spot on the chin and temple with those, it's more difficult to do it in boxing against a bigger guard and having big gloves on. Technique is also totally different punching wise.
Mellor wrote: » The no punches, over in 3 schtick was fantasy stuff. I said as much before the fight. Could Floyd have put him away in 2 rounds? Sure. But that was never going to happen. Bizzare that people where so adamant that it would, and just funny today that they hide behind the win.
chupacabra wrote: » This genuinely surprises you?
walshb wrote: » Agreed. This is just it..hiding behind the win is not my style.. The points you make should be addressed. Fight your corner. Admit your errors Break the fight down honestly and clearly.. I only got the verdict correct as regards the official winner. The rest Floyd let me down on, as well as Conor pulling me up on..
walshb wrote: » I don't know on this.. I think it worked out very well for Floyd that Conor gassed.. Here's one for you and us: let's say Conor's engine was rock solid. Can you say that Floyd beats him on points? I can't say for sure, because for me it was not a case of Floyd biding his time and waiting for his man to gas. It was a case of him not being able to get to it impose a decent successful offence on the longer rangier man, and kind if lucky that Conor's engine depleted.
Sweet Science wrote: » I agree Floyd was very poor . But your praise of Conor is strange . He was as bad as I thought he was going to be .
ThinkProgress wrote: » But Walsh, conditioning has always been integral to any boxer... we all know this... So why write it off, as if you're taking it for granted? Boxing is every bit as much about conditioning, as it is about skill... so naturally that will also affect your fight tactics too! Floyd outlasts other pro boxers too... it's not just something he decided to use against the novice in this fight. 40 is ancient in pro sports... I still think it's impressive, that a 40 year old can look younger, and move better than a 29 year old fellow sportsman! It's not something we should be flippant about.
walshb wrote: » What praise? I am praising him in context.. As a complete novice pro he was ok. Did very very well. Add this to him in against what many people call TBE, and to not praise him is pure stupidity. Now, one could not praise him and use Floyd being useless as their reasoning. Is that you? If not, and you genuinely think that Conor deserves little praise, then you must surely think that Floyd was very poor to have to work that much to get over the line against a novice pro that "you" believe deserves little to no praise..
walshb wrote: » Agreed. This is just it..hiding behind the win is not my style.. The points you make should be addressed. Fight your corner. Admit your errors Break the fight down honestly and clearly..I only got the verdict correct as regards the official winner. The rest Floyd let me down on, as well as Conor pulling me up on..
