Arghus wrote: » I found that of a bit of a strange comnent from Ken. I kind of get his point, but since when did he care about the League of Ireland? He makes his own living poring over every miniscule event in The Premier League looking for significance. Sounded a bit condescending and slightly hypocritical to me.
Raoul wrote: » I don't think it was. He was just stating a fact really. Most LoI supporters hate to see the AVIVA sold out for an absolutely awful friendly.
“It’s absolutely shocking 42,000 morons going to watch Liverpool’s reserve team – they deserve to go, they deserve to pay their money, they deserve anything they get as far as I’m concerned. “I do not understand how Irish people cannot support an Irish league. It’s beyond me. If you parachuted half that crowd into Liverpool, they wouldn’t be able to find their way to Anfield.” He added: “You can’t stall it to go the toilet or make a cup of tea! That’s what they’re into now – you’re in here, you watch your tele and you can go on and stall it, go off and come back and you don’t miss any of the match – that’s not football.”
... Bar stools are used in Ireland during weekends by followers of the English Premier League, a practice which led to the creation of the pejorative term "barstoolers" by supporters of the League of Ireland.
styron wrote: » Ex Shels manager Dermot Keely made the point strongly about the last Liverpool Aviva friendly in 2014: Even part of the Wikipedia entry for bar stool:
corwill wrote: » The LoI doing their usual sterling job of wooing potential adherents. Could teach Shelbyville to chew lemons.
Raoul wrote: » Well...he is right though. Anyway, why should LOI fans pander or try to get other fans to come to games. Fooling yourself if you think that calling them morons would have any affect on them. They aren't going to go regardless cos they are morons.
corwill wrote: » So, you have no interest in growing attendances at the LoI from the most obvious potential source of attendees? That's super clever. Have a biscuit.
Evil_g wrote: » The most obvious potential source of attendees are probably people who currently attend rugby or GAA games. Y'know, people who support Irish teams.
Evil_g wrote: » On a seperate note, I'm surprised we haven't had any one in yet decrying the lack of balance on the Nazi chat. Should've had a eugenisist on.
Pter wrote: » I disagree - their allegiances to those teams are just as strong as any LOI allegiances. I don't know if it came down to a choice in terms of money and availability, would anyone who already supports an Irish team be willing to swap for their local LOI team. I can't fault the effort of the players, but the league has, IMO, major structural issues, an image problem and has a major problem with the best players being poached by the English league. It's not up to the the fans or Irish public to fix any of those problems.
Raoul wrote: » This is and isn't a problem. If the teams were getting paid money for the players then it is great! If they are leaving for free then it is a negative. But if people are continually being poached then maybe you get some of the so called barstoolers coming to games to see the future stars of the International team and the Championship. Agree with in general though. Still would be great if more people would go to games.
Pter wrote: » For myself, i was a regular at Dalymount for 10 years or so from age 13-23, but i lost interest as i felt the quality of football wasnt good enough to keep me engaged. Also i found my fellow Bogs fans terrible negative as i got older. Don't have time for such negativity! I dont know if im one of the people the league should or shouldnt be targetting, but i barely have time to watch any games anymore (English or Irish), and the league arent, IMO, giving me reasons to put in the extra effort.
Raoul wrote: » Well there is a pretty stark contrast in the standard of football in the league from the top half to the bottom. Dundalk and Derry (and Rovers) play good passing football which is genuinely great to watch. Cork are also playing at a high standard with a more direct approach. The rest of the teams aren't at this level but still decent enough. This year would actually be a great year to support Bohs. They have a small budget but are playing ok football and outperforming expectations. I think one of the main issues is the presentation of the football. The premier league is glitz and glamour and professionalism and you can watch the best teams any time you want, most people support a top team. Whereas in the LoI, you are stuck supporting Bohs instead of Dundalk. F*ck people will watch WBA v Burnley on TV, you have the same problem here. Nobody is interested in Drogheda v Sligo. If you were a Dundalk fan then you are watching an extremely good standard of football week in week out. You are also playing good European teams and putting it up to them. Dundalk drew 2 times with Rosenborg who beat Ajax and were just about beaten by Celtic. It is easy to go and support Dundalk. People don't want to support crap teams unfortunately. Anyway...sorry for going off topic.
Raoul wrote: » This is and isn't a problem. If the teams were getting paid money for the players then it is great! If they are leaving for free then it is a negative. But if people are continually being poached then maybe you get some of the so called barstoolers coming to games to see the future stars of the International team and the Championship. .
Ol' Donie wrote: » Meanwhile, I too know nobody who follows MMA, except that absolute numbskull who squared up to the (non national) guy behind the till in Centra the other day. "Wanna step outside, boy?" And so on. Matching Conor McGregor haircut, beard etc. He got all het up because his card was declined, and decided the poor guy who was just doing his job was "trying to make a show" of him. So many, many positives surrounding cage fighting.
riemann wrote: » I like to think between work, football, college and other acquaintances I've made down through the years, that I've a decent variety of friends. Two things that have never come up in conversation of any kind is women's rugby or mma. I very much doubt I'm in the minority here. Fair enough Ireland are hosting the women's world cup so i can understand the lads covering it to score some brownie points, no one wants to be branded a sexist. I can't for the life of me understand their coverage of what is for all intents and purposes a glorified WWE match, and Ken is going to Vegas?! Really brings the tone of the podcast down.Maybe I'm completely misjudging the public discourse here, but I think they have got it all wrong and are damaging their brand in the long term. You can't laugh and sneer at something and then travel half way across the world to cover it, reeks of having ones cake and eating it.
JoseJones wrote: » riemann wrote: » I like to think between work, football, college and other acquaintances I've made down through the years, that I've a decent variety of friends. Two things that have never come up in conversation of any kind is women's rugby or mma. I very much doubt I'm in the minority here. Fair enough Ireland are hosting the women's world cup so i can understand the lads covering it to score some brownie points, no one wants to be branded a sexist. I can't for the life of me understand their coverage of what is for all intents and purposes a glorified WWE match, and Ken is going to Vegas?! Really brings the tone of the podcast down.Maybe I'm completely misjudging the public discourse here, but I think they have got it all wrong and are damaging their brand in the long term. You can't laugh and sneer at something and then travel half way across the world to cover it, reeks of having ones cake and eating it. I agree with you here, there is huge public interest.
lawred2 wrote: Anyone using pocketcasts end up with both of yesterday's pods being the same audio file? Despite being named differently?
riemann wrote: » I like to think between work, football, college and other acquaintances I've made down through the years, that I've a decent variety of friends. Two things that have never come up in conversation of any kind is women's rugby or mma. I very much doubt I'm in the minority here.
