tomwaterford wrote: » Those interested in debate/hold alternative views But guess that's not allowed anymore?
Spider Web wrote: » It's "not allowed"? Who's not allowing it? How is nitpicking in order to downplay a multiple murder "interest in debate/holding an alternative view"? I don't think all Muslims should be demonised, I know that most ISIS victims are also Muslims, I don't think there should be internment or coercion (that would end up affecting innocent people) but I really find the whataboutery, downplaying and focus on trivial semantics - when several people have been murdered - to be utterly odious. It's like some people think they can't be both critical of Islamist violence and opposed to discrimination against Muslims. I love too how there is emphasis on the "angry" people being the ones vociferously condemning the attack, rather than... y'know... the extremists themselves.
kunst nugget wrote: » Seriously, do people in this country not study the history of this island at all. What did internment and torture do in the North except lead to a massive increase in violence and exacerbated sectarian tensions. Many of the 'suspects' that were arrested and tortured turned out to have no connection with paramilitaries at all.
Mr. teddywinkles wrote: » Funny thing is if they have European passports (attackers) this could be a thing waiting in hibernation in this country. But we won't know will we.
jacksie66 wrote: » I'm heading to Spain on Tuesday for a holiday. People are telling me not to go now. If I don't go I let these bastards win. I'm not gonna change my holiday plans because of these scum, that's exactly what they want. They try and win with fear..
mahamageehad wrote: » But now is when we need to act to stop ourselves having home grown problems like this in 10 or 20 years.
tomwaterford wrote: » I don't see how it's a false equililant??? What is different?
tomwaterford wrote: » Fun fact: not everyone in life is going to share same point as you.....don't see why those you disagree with should be shouted down
tomwaterford wrote: » Second post I've seen telling people to pipe down or calling them chancers vs actually discussing things on a discussion site???
Nettle Soup wrote: » Do ISIS members carry membership cards? We should also burn witches while we're at it Also be wary of governments or administrations who use anger, fear and hatred to bring in draconian laws to control the threat and in turn the populace...we have seen it before.
Gravelly wrote: » I already explained in my previous post (though if you need it explained......) You're the one shouting people who disagree with you down. I didn't tell you to pipe down, I think sympathisers should be allowed to show themselves. I told you to get out of it if you think you can bully me into your silly strawman arguments. If you want to diminish the culpability of terrorists, at least have the moral fibre to come right out and say it.
tomwaterford wrote: » You called me a chancer??? Hardly conducive to discussion now is it?? It's not a strawman argument....I see no differences there tbh Whatever leaps of logic you need to make its your perogative tbh....if you feel me saying this amounts to bullying...then I apoligiseg if it hurts your feelings You can rest assured that wasn't my intention :'/I dunno what more I can say after that
M!Ck^ wrote: » It's been listed on various reports on twitter over the last 24 hours. And used by posters trying to defend the indefensible. Majority of these reports won't use the words Islam or Muslim.
homerjay2005 wrote: » so can you please tell us, how to stop these acts and people? and im sorry, but "you cant" is not a viable answer anymore.
tomwaterford wrote: » Good intelligence gathering It's obvious the Spanish had them under surrivelence and were able to act as soon as the first moved It's virtually impossible to stop lads driving unless we move towards atomomus vehicles....but one thing won't stop them is mass interment and torture....only loom up the road at the 6 counties to see that
Gravelly wrote: » That's fine, you can go back to the deflection so, those poor terrorists can be expected to fight the internet battles too.
tomwaterford wrote: » So no attempt to engage....but so long as your not feeling bullied it's ok:)
Gravelly wrote: » Is there still a war going on "up the road in the 6 counties"?
tomwaterford wrote: » Ask the member of the rira or mi5 which has a massive barracks there?
Gravelly wrote: » So no attempt to address the terrorist attacks in Spain.......but so long as you keep the thread derailed it's ok
Gravelly wrote: » I'll repeat my question as, yet again, you keep trying to deflect and obfuscate: Is there still a war going on "up the road in the 6 counties"?
Deleted User wrote: » A lot less dangerous than they were in the 70s, when the number of attacks and deaths in European cities from terrorist attacks stood at multiples of what they are now. But more dangerous than the 00s, when terrorist attacks and deaths in Europe were at their lowest ever.http://www.datagraver.com/case/people-killed-by-terrorism-per-year-in-western-europe-1970-2015
cfuserkildare wrote: » Just a little thought for yeh all, How do you distinguish between a Refugee and a Terrorist? How many of these Islamic State Terrorists gained entry into Europe by claiming Refugee Status? Perhaps not letting so many Refugees from war zones might just help avoid so many attacks?
Beefy78 wrote: » I've not got the numbers so this is anecdotal and open to being corrected but aren't the bulk of these high profile attacks on European cities conducted by second and third generation immigrants whose families have been 'here' for decades?
