walshb wrote: » They have not moved.. He is getting thoroughly beaten on Aug 26 And he is leagues below what is needed.. My whole thread has been consistent.. If things change of course opinions and views can..
GiftofGab wrote: » Thinking there's a possibility that this whole Pauli incident is preplanned to sell more PPV. Pauli pulling a tantrum then the video gets released 2 weeks before the fight. Pauli also works for showtime.
GerryDerpy wrote: » Your claim is baseless. Before you had an advantage in that we had no evidence of Conor vs. Boxers. Now we have proof that he knocked down a recent world champ. For you to say he would be schooled by an amateur looks absurd now.
walshb wrote: » Well, until he boxed top Irish amateurs then none of us know. I'll stay confident in them schooling him..
walshb wrote: » And a few clips here and there of a "spar" against Malignaggi won't change my mind..
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » Morrison J wrote: » He has no elite wins on his record. A number of levels below Floyd. He's also shot to bits. Never had good head movement as a pro and relied on his legs defensively. Those legs are gone. Not a massive achievement that he caught him clean in 30 seconds of footage. He's still a boxer though and the early stages of this thread suggest conor as a novice would be schooled by amateurs
Morrison J wrote: » He has no elite wins on his record. A number of levels below Floyd. He's also shot to bits. Never had good head movement as a pro and relied on his legs defensively. Those legs are gone. Not a massive achievement that he caught him clean in 30 seconds of footage.
GerryDerpy wrote: » None of us know is right, so your confidence is misplaced and baseless. Fair enough. Objectively it does point to McGregor having some form of pro boxing ability but whatever.
walshb wrote: » Pro boxing ability to what degree is the key? There are many pro boxers out there that my granny would beat.. Where is Conor as regards levels? I'd say well down the list...
Burial. wrote: » Certainly isn't clean but does look a knockdown, although I've seen them ruled a slip/push. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm surprised Paulie looked so aggressive and willing to engage. Both looking very amateurish. It's convenient Dana posted two spots where he looked well. Again, it doesn't say much about the sparring as a whole. Sparring is sparring though, I've seen world level fighters made to look like novices. Props to Conor though, looks at least functional in the ring. Still waiting for the prices on Floyd to drift.
blade1 wrote: » Would McGregor beat your Granny?:D
walshb wrote: And a few clips here and there of a "spar" against Malignaggi won't change my mind..
Ultimate Seduction wrote: » Whats with the commas around "spar". You are now insinuating it wasn't actually a spar. Your a gas man Walsh.
walshb wrote: » Considering her reach was only 60 and his 74 I think he'd be a live favourite.
GerryDerpy wrote: » To what degree I don't know. But the assertion from you and others was that this was like McIlroy or Ronaldo stepping into the ring against Floyd. My assertion is that yee are seriously underestimating Conor's boxing ability. Either traditional boxing skills or applicable skills. I think his ability to knockdown a former world champ means he is numerous levels above your initial assessment.
walshb wrote: » I don't think I ever said it was like Rory or Ronaldo stepping in the ring against Floyd..I hope I didn't.. Conor has fighting skills in a general overall sense.. I don't think Rory or Ronaldo have.. Like I said...I have been consistent.. In relation to top class pro boxing Conor for me is a novice.
LionelNashe wrote: » What keeps me watching McGregor is that I always think that this might be the one where he loses (not that I want him to.) It's like watching somebody on a tightrope. You want him to get across but there's tension because he might fall of at any moment. He's been going out before fights for the last few years, confidently predicting victory. This heightens the stakes, because he's risking embarrassment by being so outspoken. People say, he won't beat this guy, he won't beat a wrestler, he won't beat Jose Aldo, he won't beat a lightweight. The fact that he lost the first Diaz fight doesn't even diminish my interest, because it just proves that he can lose, that there really is something at stake. Those who say McGregor won't win, is there any part of you that wants to be wrong?
GerryDerpy wrote: » Maybe I am paraphrasing! Well yes he is a novice by definition. He has zero pro fights! But I can see past that and look at his abilities that may give him a chance. To just go on the logic that he is novice therefore he loses is lazy.
Gamebred wrote: » The fact he couldnt take out an out of shape Paulie is a worry, 16 oz's or not, Paulie isnt in the same universe as Floyd but it appears some people that said he wouldnt land a punch on a pro or even good amatuer due to them seeing the Van Heeren sparring, now footage of him putting it on Malignaggi and it doesnt count? pmsl
John_D80 wrote: » Why would he be even trying to take out a sparring partner in fairness ?? He had an opportunity to spar with a genuinely world class boxer. 'Taking him out' would have done nothing for his preparation.
Gamebred wrote: » Are you serious? even in the footage he's trying take him out of course he'd of like to ko Paulie.
myshirt wrote: » Yeah it's very poor. This could be dangerous. The footwork isn't there at all.
John_D80 wrote: » The footage?? All 15 seconds of it? Malignaggi was always known as a fighter that was pretty tough to finish. It's not in any way a negative reflection on McGregor that he didn't finish him in a spar like you're trying to make out.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » He's still a boxer though and the early stages of this thread suggest conor as a novice would be schooled by amateurs
Gamebred wrote: » Of course it is, hes planning on taking out a 100 times better fighter, how you gonna ko Floyd if you couldnt stop Paulie in 20 rounds, one knockdown is hardly inspiring.
