Solomon Pleasant wrote: » I enjoy my college course but probably won't enjoy the job that will accompany it. I agree with needing purpose, but how many people can say their job is their passion in life? That's why I have such an issue with so many mundane jobs and the mindset of get a job, pays taxes, retire and eventually die.
Ulysses Gaze wrote: » Most people don't ever find that.
messy tessy wrote: » Yeh but caramel Freddos are just not nice.
snowflaker wrote: » and weren't they called Taz bars at one point???
Solomon Pleasant wrote: When I graduate it'll probably be in some kind of office job (if I get a job) where I'll probably be working for some manager who I quite dislike but I'll probably become similar to over the next 40 years. Anyway, work your life away while the founder becomes rich and you earn a wage which is sufficient for survival but not really sufficient for growth and self actualisation.
Solomon Pleasant wrote: Perhaps this is just me being slightly anti capitalist as it seems to be the done thing. I view it as working your life away and I would imagine it could become my greatest regret.
timthumbni wrote: » Does anyone else think that working is one of the biggest cons ever pulled? Working 5/6 days a week in the year 2017 seems absurd to me. Also the fact that those on welfare seem to be better or as well off than those of us who actually are working makes no sense at all. We are here for a short time. I understand the need for money to live etc but do we really need to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 etc?
Smurfette principle wrote: » I enjoy working, like I get paid well but I don't do it for the money I love what I do and I love being around other people, you can bitch all you want and say that people on the social welfare have it better but really would you choose to be in a job you like or sitting at home scratching your arse where you're only choice to socialize is the local pub or to get a 2 liter and sit in a field in the pissing rain with a load of other people who have no ambition in life? Nobody wants to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 because looking around the social welfare option looks attractive but you are not really seeing the reality, most of those people you see getting pissed on a Tuesday are broke on a Wednesday. I'd choose work every time because it gives you a purpose and a reason to motivate yourself everyday, If I was stuck at home everyday watching Jeremy Kyle, Ophra and repeats of Friends no mess I would crack after about a week
timthumbni wrote: » I wouldn't be watching Oprah. There are numerous outstanding tv programs to be watched. I just think it's silly to be working most of your healthy life. I actually think it's quite bizarre. My opinion obviously. I know plenty of ones who live for their work. I think they are brainwashed and deluded.....
Solomon Pleasant wrote: » I've watched that film, I loved it! Sadly, he doesn't exactly live very long. I loved his motives within the film but I'm not sure he found closure. A great story nonetheless.
Django99 wrote: » But what is your alternative? What would you realistically prefer to be doing?
timthumbni wrote: » Spending more time with my children, partner etc. Playing games, hobbies, exercise, laughing, taking the piss, travelling etc etc. I would never be bored... work really restricts you.
NIMAN wrote: » What about if Gov's were to introduce universal income, give everyone €1000 monthly?
Django99 wrote: » But how could you afford to this? As in my question is more to do with the practicality of not working, rather than the idea that it would be better to not have to work. I agree that it would be great if none of us had to work, if all labour was automated and we could spend all of our lives doing the things you've mentioned above. But society isn't there yet, and because society loves to evolve and try to improve all the time, im not sure it will ever be there.
timthumbni wrote: » That's a fair question. I just don't see why we as a developed first world country should be still doing the old Monday to Friday 9"to 5 crap. Surely we have moved beyond that. Most people aren't even religious anymore so we all know what we have is it. Working till you are 65 and dying shortly after seems insane.
LadyMacBeth_ wrote: » Hunter gatherers work about 20 hours a week, the rest of the time is leisure time! That's how it was before the agricultural revolution.
LadyMacBeth_ wrote: » I have an illness so I work part time, I need the money and I previously thought that I needed the job for a routine/my sanity and because you can't tell that I have an illness just from looking at me I prefer to be able to answer strangers honestly about having a job rather than having to tell them that I do nothing. It's very unlikely that I will live to retirement age and I will probably reach the stage where I can't work at all in the next ten years (I'm 29 now). Before I used to feel like a bum or a waster and beat myself up about being a drain or a burden on society because I will never have a career, I have a job that is beneath my intellect because of my illness. Now though I think to myself that I shouldn't be working until I am too ill to work because what sort of life is that? It really is working until I die in a job I don't particularly enjoy, fcuk that. I'd quit now if I could afford it. I have enrolled in a psychology evening class that starts in October, there are plenty of ways to stimulate yourself and feel like you are achieving something other than having a job.
timthumbni wrote: » I have heard loads of my colleagues asking what would they do all day if they weren't working. I can think of a thousand things. I think sometimes most people just accept their fate like the workers in 1984. It's sad and bull****.
Cubik wrote: » I would love to go running, go to exercise classes, read, watch a movie, watch a few episodes of a TV series, meet friends for lunch/a glass of wine or beer, go to an exhibition, go for a drive to the coast/countryside, go for a walk around hidden parts of town with my camera, go to the cinema, post on Boards... but I would have no money to do these things after a while. It's not sad and bull****, it's necessary.
timthumbni wrote: » My point i s'more about why we still have the Monday to Friday 9 to 5 working lifestyle. It's 2017. We are a first world country. The working class have it the toughest. And by working class I mean those that work, not those on welfare. I do think there is a collective form of brainwashing on the go. Working till you are are 65/70 then conveniently dying doesn't sound like living the dream to me,
eeguy wrote: » But if no one worked then there'd be no winemaker or wine sellers. No actors or people to organize exhibitions. No cars and no cameras. People work to create products and services and earn money to enjoy those products and services. You may dislike the drudgery of your job, but it must be necessary for someone or else it wouldn't exist.
eeguy wrote: » What's your alternative?
timthumbni wrote: » Shorter working hours, only working 4 days per week. I know every working environment may differ but I certainly could do my 5 days work in 4 and possibly 3 even. Most people zone out on a Monday morning and Friday afternoon for example. Would it really hurt to go 4 days a week for example???
Johngoose wrote: » Working over 40 years till retirement seems like a load of balls to me alright. You are probably giving up the best years of your life for your career. What can you really do at 65 when you retire? Your prime years are gone at that stage.