Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » He's up there, but it's arguable whether Griezmann is better than Neymar overall rather than taking a 1 year sample size.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » Neymars rankings in the Ballon D'or in recent years. 2016: 5th 2015: 3rd 2014: 7th 2013: 5th Averages out at 5th over the past 4 years , the years he's been playing in Europe so I'd say it's safe to say he's one of the top 5 players in the world and that putting forward that opinion that he is is perfectly sensible.
irishman86 wrote: » A award that favours strikers more and more each year, you really are proving nothing only your bias towards strikers. You realise there is a golden boot for strikers :pac:
irishman86 wrote: » How about the player who came third in the voting this year for a start :rolleyes:
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » Who'd be ahead of him then? I'd pick him in front of every payer in the world apart from Messi,Ronaldo and Suarez right now.
astradave wrote: » Randolph to Middlesborohttps://twitter.com/boro/status/888490086182072322 I'm sure you don't need me to translate this one https://twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/888492101381615617
Burial. wrote: » Yet you say this: In response to this: Neymar is also not a striker.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » This doesn't prove my bias towards anything it proves the people who vote in the ballon d'or clearly rate him highly.The guardians top 100 players list for 2016 had him at number 5 aswell. Attackers are the most important players on the field, so the ballon d'or award should favour them. All the good defensive play and keeping possession is worth absolutely nothing if you don't have players who can carve open the defence and put the ball into the back of the net.
Johner wrote: » If Neymar does leave then Coutinho is definitely Barca bound. Can see him forcing the move.
Harry Palmr wrote: » Why would he? He can play Champions League football with his mate Fun Bobby as his other bessie is heading for Paris. Seriously though, the only way Coutinho will leave this summer is if Liverpool somehow fail to navigate the CL group qualifier in August, maybe then he'd say okay time to leave. Otherwise I think he can be confident of another offer next year.
irishman86 wrote: » Attackers arent really the most important players on the field, thats a modern persons and a incorrect way of thinking. The balon d'or is a popularity contest hence why Ronaldo/Messi have won it years others should have.
Johner wrote: » The same reason Suarez left. To join a much bigger club and to win things.
Harry Palmr wrote: » Hello, 2005 called Who knows, Leicester City reached the quarters last season fer Pete's sake.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » They are. Always have been and always will be. That's why clubs pay more for them than payers in other positions. A 0-0 draw with 75% possession gets you 1 point and you don't win anything drawing games. I remember hearing Franco Baresi being interviewed and he admitted that Van Basten was the most important player on the Milan team he was on, because of the impact he had up front. Even one of the greatest defenders of all time on probably the greatest defensive team of all time could admit that.I remember Beckenbauer and Rumenigge saying a similar thing about Gerd Muller As great as Iniesta and Xavi are without the likes of Etoo,Ronadihnio,Henry,Messi,Villa,Surez and Neymar finishing off the dominance and opportunities they create Barca and Spain wouldn't have achieved anything close to what they did. It doesn't mean the other positions aren't important it just means the attackers are a little bit more important.In every single sport in the world certain positions on team will always have a higher degree of importance and premium on them than others.
irishman86 wrote: » Really because Zidane has been the most important player for every team he played for. Ronaldinho and Messi are players on another planet and Suarez isnt a typical striker. Eto'o wouldnt have been half the player without Xavi/Iniesta or Sneijder at Inter Buffon a goalkeeper was one of the most expensive players for how long :rolleyes: At United De Gea was the most important player till Zlatan/Pogba arrived As for Spain they had a underperforming Torres hence why they started Fabergas so ya I dont agree with you
astradave wrote: » Think it's more that they wouldn't have a hope in winning it though whereas Barca would, I'd say the same about a United player, like I would hope Herrera would turn down Barca if they came calling like the reports but I don't think he would. Very hard for a Latin player to turn down the big 2 Edit: as a matter of interest, how much is Coutinho on a week?
Harry Palmr wrote: He is Liverpool's most waged player at £200,000 a week.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » I said attackers were more important not strikers. The game itself tells you attackers are more important as the biggest transfer fees are paid for attacking players.
Harry Palmr wrote: » He is Liverpool's most waged player at £200,000 a week.
Harry Palmr wrote: » So City will have 4 players across the back all costing about 50m quids. Blimey.
