Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: » Brazil are the main customer of the of KC390 so presumably they will be the main advert of attention for launch. They have ordered a total of 26, 1 to be delivered in 2018 followed by 2 in 2019 then the rest in to be delivered by 2022. For EU customers which mainly are Czech Republic and Portugal, however Portugal are to ask for a further two more. Ireland hasn't confirmed the purchase but it's looking likely to that type of aircraft.
I seen that during leaders questions two weeks ago that he wants the radar capability but he was challenged by opposition about having interceptor aircraft as it was put to him it's all good seeing something coming your way but not being able to do something about it is a another thing he commented that he is happy with the idea of having IAC reps look for the right aircraft as we cannot rely on the RAF he mention clauses with Brexit etc.
sparky42 wrote: » Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: » Brazil are the main customer of the of KC390 so presumably they will be the main advert of attention for launch. They have ordered a total of 26, 1 to be delivered in 2018 followed by 2 in 2019 then the rest in to be delivered by 2022. For EU customers which mainly are Czech Republic and Portugal, however Portugal are to ask for a further two more. Ireland hasn't confirmed the purchase but it's looking likely to that type of aircraft. So a total of 3 would be in service around the time the CASA's need to be replaced. Yep it would be insanity for Ireland to try and get them (even assuming that we could buy some slots of the Brazilians to get them in 2019-2020). We have tried being launch/near launch customers before and it's brought us nothing but problems. Whatever the budget is, go for the NATO standard that has the largest customer base and stick with that. Anything else is beyond stupid. I seen that during leaders questions two weeks ago that he wants the radar capability but he was challenged by opposition about having interceptor aircraft as it was put to him it's all good seeing something coming your way but not being able to do something about it is a another thing he commented that he is happy with the idea of having IAC reps look for the right aircraft as we cannot rely on the RAF he mention clauses with Brexit etc. That's called the opposition being the opposition, none of them would vote for the budget increase for any FJ capability and everyone in the Daíl knows that. Kehoe has feck all interest in the DF and would never get the Cabinet to sign off on it.
Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: » I agree , Embrear are good a commercial airlines and have came up with the design to compete as AC130 Hercules which they said is there main competitor and are thriving to beat in the market. I personally think Embrear have set the bar far too high with comparing it to an aircraft that is tried and tested. If the IAC are looking for something cheap and as good as the KC390, I believe the AN178 has been tried and fitted to do similar taskes but it is Eastern European built which they never liked for some reason.
sparky42 wrote: » Why? Again you are suggesting a design that has zero operational success, it's less advanced than the KC390 with only 1 in testing. The replacement for the CASA's need to be MPA's and neither of the designs you've suggested are MPA's at all. There's the C 27J Spartan or the CASA 295, those are the two runners, everything else is nuts to start looking (particularly the two you've suggested).
Heraldoffreeent wrote: » And one is $28m and the other is $40, so its easy read which one we'll be getting. As with the PC12,, this is pretty much well flagged, there'll be no KC390 here.
Leonidas BL wrote: » A new PC9 arrived in today. This one has two atomic bombs strapped to the wings. Take that North Korea :P:p snip
sparky42 wrote: » Hopefully the others will get fitted with the tanks as well, or perhaps look at other pods that could increase their usefulness.
Leonidas BL wrote: » I doubt it. These were probably used to fly it from Switzerland. I bet they'll go back to Pilatus.
Heraldoffreeent wrote: » And one is $28m and the other is $40, so its easy read which one we'll be getting.
Negative_G wrote: » Incorrect. The aircraft stopped en route. The drop tanks will be staying also with more to arrive.
ezra_ wrote: » What do the drop tanks allow the planes to do - just spend more time flying?
Leonidas BL wrote: » Secretly they are just covers for AIM-9X air to air missiles. That way the lefty lunatics in this country wont start blabbering.
Leonidas BL wrote: Secretly they are just covers for AIM-9X air to air missiles. That way the lefty lunatics in this country wont start blabbering.
Markcheese wrote: » Oohh, in a nifty stealth case... ��
chem wrote: » years ago, when I was a kid, I would visit my relations in Kildare town over the summer. I used to love going to the army camp there and have a look around. Security was not an issue there. We used to play on the anti aircraft guns:eek: I remember seeing a radar dome on the site and was always wondering what hi tec wonderous devise was in it. One day I spotted a man heading to the dome with a wheelbarrow. I hid and waited for him to open the doors to the dome. I couldnt wait to see the radar dish. He opened both doors wide. I watched. He then went inside and filled his barrow with turf:eek: The bloody thing was full of turf!! Kind of ruined my childhood dreams of the Irish army that day:(
Leonidas BL wrote: » So in the budget it was mentioned about buying new Light tactical armored vehicles. Does that mean they are replacing the RG-32's?
Leonidas BL wrote: » Id love to see either of these:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9hicule_Blind%C3%A9_L%C3%A9gerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mowag_Eagle
BoJack Horseman wrote: » Those French VBL's are tiny and are going to be phased out by the French Army The Eagle is impressive, though I can't see what makes them better than the RG32's we already have.
sparky42 wrote: » That they work? Our 32s have terrible reliability apparently.
Markcheese wrote: » What stops them? Engine, electronics or suspension? They're clocking up the hours at this stage...
joeysoap wrote: » Eavesdropping on this thread. When I was a kid and traveling from Dundalk to Dublin by train, we sat on the ‘sea’ side if possible until Mosney. Then we moved over to the other side so we could see the air corps airplanes parked in a field at Gormanstown. There was early alway 2 parked up and of course in my imagination they were Spitfires , ready to do battle in the sky. Oh the innocence.
Leonidas BL wrote: » I heard they are badly made balls of ****e
Markcheese wrote: » Oh grand, we'll go through an exhaustive selection process and just get the same thing again so... ��
