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Clare GAA discussion thread

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Thought I'd start this thread as haven't found one of the same.

So, 2010.. new decade... new beginnings? With the aim of the League being to get back into Division 1, could Clare also achieve success in Munster this year?

The fixtures for 2010:

31.01.2010 Waterford v Clare(Waterford Crystal Cup SF)

21.02.2010 Clare v Down (NHL)
28.02.2010 Laois v Clare (NHL)
14.03.2010 Clare v Wexford (NHL)
21.03.2010 Antrim v Clare (NHL)
28.03.2010 Carlow v Clare (NHL)
04.04.2010 Clare v Westmeath (NHL)
18.04.2010 Kildare v Clare (NHL)

07.06.2010 Waterford v Clare (MHC)

As well as a proposed friendly versus Cork, Ger O'Loughlin has a good load of matches to blood players from U-21's into the senior game. With the opponents in the League not posing a major threat some would argue Clare wont get as much preparation as Div 1 teams, but maybe it will give them an opportunity to focus on their strength and conditioning?

So, Clare face Waterford on Sunday at 2pm in Ballyduff Upper.. I think they should win against this weakened Waterford side, but I think it will be close tbh. But could Waterford topple us in the pre season tournament?

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letowski

Reputable Rog wrote:

Why are the U21's not wearing the current strip?

Did this last year, dont know, likely expenses spared. Minors earlier in the year had to go fundraising themselves, our county board is that stingy.

Reputable Rog

Why are the U21's not wearing the current strip?

Clareman

BnB wrote: »

On top of the above, it is also strongly rumored that the players were told by a certain bitter county board official that the County Board sent back 5,000 tickets that were not used.

I know of at least 2 clubs who did not get all the tickets they looked for.

This is the same county board who refused to get hand dryers in the bathrooms of Cusack Park when it was redeveloped because "Fellas don't wash their hands when they go to match and if they do they can dry them on their pants", the thought process this time around would be "Let them get their tickets in Centra"

BnB

Figerty wrote: »

It appears the Clare county board didn't order tickets for the stands. Cork got in their first and cleaned out the system.
And we all know Cork will travel when they expect to win:D

On top of the above, it is also strongly rumored that the players were told by a certain bitter county board official that the County Board sent back 5,000 tickets that were not used.

I know of at least 2 clubs who did not get all the tickets they looked for.

Figerty

blue note wrote: »

I think clare and ourselves have been poor in bringing numbers in recent years. In the 90s and noughties a munster match between us would have brought 25, 30 thousand. Now, it could be 10-15. For whatever reason, people are not traveling as they used to.

For those who might go, the journey to cork is going to tip a hell of a lot of people over the edge and they won't bother. No two ways about that.

Saturday is a working day, 3pm is the middle of a Saturday. Very few will travel. It's peak farming time, and holiday time.. and the tickets are expensive for a family..
Same applies for Tipperary. Expect a small crowd to travel but the Cork crowd may turn up to swell numbers.

blue note

I think clare and ourselves have been poor in bringing numbers in recent years. In the 90s and noughties a munster match between us would have brought 25, 30 thousand. Now, it could be 10-15. For whatever reason, people are not traveling as they used to.

For those who might go, the journey to cork is going to tip a hell of a lot of people over the edge and they won't bother. No two ways about that.

opinionated3

namloc1980 wrote: »

This still doesn't explain why Clare fans didn't go to Thurles for the Munster final. Or will Clare only go to games in Ennis or Limerick?

Tbh I'm at a loss to explain the no shows last Sunday. I had heard rumours about serious problems with ticketing. For example I got my terrace ticket in centra around nine days before the match. The machine in the shop wouldn't allow any stand tickets to be sold......Killinan end was the only option given. At the time I thought that was a bit weird but I assumed the club's were getting the stand tickets. But then I was told that the total amount of stand tickets ordered by Clare was in the region of 1500. So it was all a bit baffling tbh...

Figerty

namloc1980 wrote: »

This still doesn't explain why Clare fans didn't go to Thurles for the Munster final. Or will Clare only go to games in Ennis or Limerick?

It appears the Clare county board didn't order tickets for the stands. Cork got in their first and cleaned out the system.
And we all know Cork will travel when they expect to win:D

namloc1980

opinionated3 wrote: »

Playing Tipp in either Limerick or, for your arguments sake, Ennis , would have brought in a great crowd. Fans are studying the logistics of going to cork for a 3pm throw in on a busy Saturday and it does not look one bit appealing. Common sense would have placed it in Limerick but sure the Gaa have to show off Frank Murphy's new gaff to the watching world!

This still doesn't explain why Clare fans didn't go to Thurles for the Munster final. Or will Clare only go to games in Ennis or Limerick?

opinionated3

Playing Tipp in either Limerick or, for your arguments sake, Ennis , would have brought in a great crowd. Fans are studying the logistics of going to cork for a 3pm throw in on a busy Saturday and it does not look one bit appealing. Common sense would have placed it in Limerick but sure the Gaa have to show off Frank Murphy's new gaff to the watching world!

namloc1980

opinionated3 wrote: »

Ridiculous comment....

Evidence says otherwise. How many went to Clare's home qualifier in Ennis last year....c5,000. No show at the Mundter final this year (first in 9 years). Very soft and low core of support it seems. Clare's own players are calling it out on the media!

danganabu

Clareman wrote: »

If it was on in Limerick you would have a lot more Clare people at it, in fact I'd say it'd be a sell out. 20 minutes down the road vs. 2 hours, ffs the Gaelic Grounds is closer to some of the players homes than Cusack Park.

Not a hope, in fact if memory serves me correct the Gaelic Grounds has only ever been full once since it was re-developed. Another massive wasted of money.

KrustyUCC

namloc1980 wrote: »

That's not going ahead. First game will be an intermediate hurling championship game on Wednesday night 19th.

Yeah Blarney v Valley Rovers

I'm not a member of either club but will go down for a look Wednesday night

I may even go to ye're game if i'm not working

namloc1980

Clareman wrote: »

If it was on in Limerick you would have a lot more Clare people at it, in fact I'd say it'd be a sell out. 20 minutes down the road vs. 2 hours, ffs the Gaelic Grounds is closer to some of the players homes than Cusack Park.

Clare crowd didn't go to Thurles for their first Munster final in 9 years so it's wishful thinking that they'd all suddenly show up at a quarter final.

opinionated3

namloc1980 wrote: »

It could be played in Ennis and the Clare crowd still wouldn't show up.

Ridiculous comment....

namloc1980

Clareman wrote: »

That's this weekend with a club match being played

That's not going ahead. First game will be an intermediate hurling championship game on Wednesday night 19th.

jackrussel

Clareman wrote: »

That's this weekend with a club match being played

they wont go to the club game

Clareman

namloc1980 wrote: »

It could be played in Ennis and the Clare crowd still wouldn't show up.

If it was on in Limerick you would have a lot more Clare people at it, in fact I'd say it'd be a sell out. 20 minutes down the road vs. 2 hours, ffs the Gaelic Grounds is closer to some of the players homes than Cusack Park.

Clareman

jackrussel wrote: »

cork hurlers wont be playing there this year - im not sure about the footballers. there'll be plenty cork folk at it for a gawk at their new white elephant

That's this weekend with a club match being played

namloc1980

fabsoul wrote: »

It should be played in Limerick,

It could be played in Ennis and the Clare crowd still wouldn't show up.

jackrussel

Clareman wrote: »

Unfortunately I'd say it could be free in for Clare & Tipp supporters the next day and it'd struggle to sell out.

cork hurlers wont be playing there this year - im not sure about the footballers. there'll be plenty cork folk at it for a gawk at their new white elephant

fabsoul

It should be played in Limerick,

Clareman

mountgomery burns wrote: »

The tickets are 30 euro if bought in advance, so just do that. What price were people expecting? It was never going to be less than 25 anyway

Unfortunately I'd say it could be free in for Clare & Tipp supporters the next day and it'd struggle to sell out.

mountgomery burns

The tickets are 30 euro if bought in advance, so just do that. What price were people expecting? It was never going to be less than 25 anyway

Clareman

I would say that there was the same number of Clare supporters at the 1995 Munster Final as there was on Sunday.

opinionated3

I was there on Sunday so no excuses here. I haven't missed a championship match in years so I think I could be regarded as a decent supporter of Aaron and the lads. As regards the train I'm not interested. Pure and simple. Prefer the privacy of my own car thanks very much. The rest of the fans? I have no idea. I do have this little theory in my head that as a county we are not used to all Ireland success. So when years like 2013 roll around and we go nuts when we win in croker, it's almost like "ah that was super lads..... Monkey is off our back for another few years"!!! Instead of being Brian cody-like and attempting aggressively to win year after year. In other words retaining the fierce hunger for success.
I also believe that the appointment of Maloney and o Connor has failed to capture the imagination of gaa followers in Clare. (I wish them every success and believe they totally deserve a shot at it, despite the recent bad showings). I think if someone like Daly (although I can't stand the guy) or even Anthony Cunningham or Donal o Grady had been appointed they would have galvanised the support a bit better. It's almost like people are EXPECTING the team to flop now, despite the experts telling us that we have some of the most skillful players in the land.
It's all a bit disconcerting and I think Saturday week will be a disaster attendance-wise.... Unfortunately.

danganabu

Clareman wrote: »

What, people are lazy because they don't give up 1 of their days off to spend ~6 hours in a car to spend €40 to watch a match just becase they are from Clare or Tipperary? What's in it for the supporters to go? Where's the entertainment? where's the "hook"? Why go to the matach when you can watch it on TV from the comfort of your home? To go to a match will cost someone a lot of money, why go?

It's amazing the way all those concerns evaporate come September

Personally I think I would be in bits if I missed a Tipp championship game, I have missed two since 1987, we played Down in a qualifier one year and I also missed the Cork qualifier game in Thurles in 2007 as I was on holidays and I still haven't really forgiven her indoors

namloc1980

Clareman wrote: »

€28 return, assume €35 a ticket for 2 people that's €126 for the day before anything else is factored in (Tipp supporters will bring their own sandwiches after all ). €126 is a lot of money for a lot of people can you give a reason why someone should give up that much money?

Looking at the train times, you'd be leaving at 11.35 and returning at 21.29, that's just short of 10 hours away from home, can you give a reason why someone should give up that much time?

To support your team perhaps? Listen if people don't want to/can't spend the money then that's fine but just say that. Even if the game was in Limerick you'd have the bulk of that cost anyway. But there's something else here. What are the excuses for the Thurles no show? Are you telling me that Clare supporters stayed away due to the cost? First Munster final in 9 years. Not buying it I'm afraid.

Clareman

To answer my own question by the way, my reason for spending the time and money is because I love the GAA and I particularly love Clare GAA but I don't think it's fair to assume that others will have the same level of dedication to following the teams as I do, there has to be a reason to do it and if there isn't a valid reason then I can understand why people don't go

Clareman

namloc1980 wrote: »

And what are the excuses for the no show on Sunday in Thurles? First Munster final in 9 years and very small crowd shows up. One of your players has called it out in the media and it clearly affected them. €28 return train from Ennis to Cork and avoid all traffic. But seems to be a lot of excuses going on.

€28 return, assume €35 a ticket for 2 people that's €126 for the day before anything else is factored in (Tipp supporters will bring their own sandwiches after all

). €126 is a lot of money for a lot of people can you give a reason why someone should give up that much money?

Looking at the train times, you'd be leaving at 11.35 and returning at 21.29, that's just short of 10 hours away from home, can you give a reason why someone should give up that much time?