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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    I'd be surprised if they went on general sale

    Probably looking at something like the Pac/Mayweather fight, around 1,000 tickets will go on sale.

    Nothing out there yet and I am sure it will be a joint UFC/TMT conference when it does get announced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    Jim Lampley mad a good comment in an interview the other day

    Just forgot Conor isn't a pro boxer etc and has had no fights

    Even if he was pro boxer his style of fighting is horrific for someone boxing Mayweather . A counter puncher who only throws in ones and twos . if Floyd could pick a style to fight that would be it
    There's a really big flaw in that logic though. He's looking at Conor's style in an MMA fight where he has MMA has to defend takedowns, kicks etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Mellor wrote: »
    There's a really big flaw in that logic though. He's looking at Conor's style in an MMA fight where he has MMA has to defend takedowns, kicks etc.

    So not only does he have to box for the 1st time ever he has to change his whole style in the space of 10 weeks. He will have to go from a low output counter puncher to a high output brawler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,445 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I have seen a few clips of Conor sparring now, and unless he is deliberately playing dumb and trying to look bang average, then he has no chance here at all.

    Fellas, just sit back and enjoy the con. Facing up to the truth here is half the battle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    I have seen a few clips of Conor sparring now, and unless he is deliberately playing dumb and trying to look bang average, then he has no chance here at all.

    Fells, just sit back and enjoy the con. Facing up to the truth here is half the battle.


    Yeah i'm big fan of both so will enjoy the show . More than happy to see Floyd lace them up again .

    You know its bad when Jeff Mayweather though the sparring footage last year for the Diaz rematch was staged to look so bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,445 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Yeah i'm big fan of both

    Nonsense. Didn't you know that anyone not giving Conor even a sliver of hope here is a hater!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Conor via DQ
    So not only does he have to box for the 1st time ever he has to change his whole style in the space of 10 weeks. He will have to go from a low output counter puncher to a high output brawler

    Wouldnt call this the most likely case but imagine it turns out hes been training straight boxing all along on the sly? he did bring up a mayweather fight to john years ago after all so god only knows!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Depp wrote: »
    Wouldnt call this the most likely case but imagine it turns out hes been training straight boxing all along on the sly? he did bring up a mayweather fight to john years ago after all so god only knows!

    I remember after the Mayweather Pacman fight he tweeted that it was more like a business transaction . And now here we are :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Paulie Malinaggi will be sparring McGregor, interesting choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Gintonious wrote: »
    Paulie Malinaggi will be sparring McGregor, interesting choice.


    Good choice really


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,445 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Good choice really

    Yeeh, couldn't burst a grape, but no doubt he'd run rings around Conor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    Conor via DQ
    I remember after the Mayweather Pacman fight he tweeted that it was more like a business transaction . And now here we are :D

    Never know he could have been preparing for that rather than the actual boxing alright! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    That's interesting that he has Malinaggi on board. He could be a good teacher. He wouldn't beat Paulie in a boxing match either...think about that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    There has been much better teachers teaching much better boxers .

    Paulie was on sky building it up

    The tour going to London is a shame . however I don't think we would of covered ourselves in glory if it was here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    Paulie was on Second Captains a few weeks ago giving Connor zero chance. Also called him out for a fight before it was all confirmed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Paulie was on Second Captains a few weeks ago giving Connor zero chance. Also called him out for a fight before it was all confirmed.


    Conor wants to use him as a punch bag, but a fat retired paulie still better than the bum wrestlers hes been beating in the ufc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Its getting beyond ridiculous now what both of them are doing

    Floyd is talking himself down on instagram that he is old and past it and not the fighter he was . He would never ever do this before a fight . saying if conor hurts him he will find a way to win etc . There was also footage of his sparring which is never ever leaked . it just so happens that he looks mediocre in it

    Then Conor on the other hand is releasing footage of how great he is . Photos of his sparring partners getting beat up . This is simply a no no from a fighters point of view . You don't embarrass your sparring partners like that .

    However its all just a work from all involved .

    I'm sure they will be best of mates after the fight as they are both winning here really


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    It'll be interesting to see what the first press conference will be like. If people don't get the fireworks they think they will, which I think will happen, this fight could lose people's interest quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,445 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Mayweather has no option but to spoof and waffle his way through this. Not a chance he'd admit to the BS con that this really is, hence his throwing out bits and bobs here and there to try and justify the con..

    Fellas, the con is on. Sit back and enjoy the ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Could they have any other way to have a sense on how many buys this gets other than it's only Dana, Floyd and the man himself saying he has a chance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭Danny2580


    Just thought I'd point out something I think is interesting from a purely objective point of view (and might bore everyone to tears!). I'm a boxing fan myself, and a casual McGregor fan. Certainly wouldn't call myself an expert on boxing or MMA. Sports betting is my area, though, and I think the prices here are worth a mention.

    Betfair's market is widely regarded as the most efficient predictor of outcomes, and it currently shows McGregor as an 11/2 shot to go and win. That suggests that if this fight was staged 13 times, the market would expect Mayweather to win 11 times, and McGregor twice. Or more simply, that McGregor has a one in six-and-a-half chance of winning.

    To put it into a bit more context, Chelsea play Everton at Stamford Bridge at the end of August. How surprised would you be if Everton won? Sure, it would be unexpected, but hardly earth-shattering. It might be surprising, then, that the odds of an Everton win in that game are identical to the odds of a McGregor win in this fight.

    The view of many I've spoken to would contradict this - the suggestion being that it's a bit of a farce, and Floyd should cruise to a handy victory barring an act of god or injury during the fight. If this was the case, Mayweather would probably be priced up at around 1/20 - suggesting he would win 20 out of 21 fights against McGregor.

    Bookmakers of course have to be careful, and they can't be too generous with McGregor's price with tonnes of patriotic money around. But that Betfair market is nothing if not efficient, and I have to say that despite having no strong opinion on the outcome of the fight, I was surprised to see Mayweather priced as big as he is. If you put your money down and he wins, there's an 18% return on investment made for an apparent farce / certainty.

    To sum up in one sentence: the market is factoring something in, in McGregor's favour, that those who think Mayweather is an out-and-out certainty are not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    Fellas, just sit back and enjoy the con. Facing up to the truth here is half the battle.
    walshb wrote: »
    Mayweather has no option but to spoof and waffle his way through this. Not a chance he'd admit to the BS con that this really is, hence his throwing out bits and bobs here and there to try and justify the con..

    Fellas, the con is on. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

    The only 'con' here is you.

    Getting your excuses in every other post in case Conor goes out there and flattens Floyd.

    Here's 2 things you can't keep saying in combination:

    1. Conor is hopeless, Floyd will embarrass him and destroy him.
    2. The fight is a con where Conor will be allowed to perform well.

    Either Conor is going to get destroyed or he isn't.

    PICK ONE

    It's embarrassing you feel the need to constantly sit on the fence and hint at shenanigans.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The only 'con' here is you.

    Getting your excuses in every other post in case Conor goes out there and flattens Floyd.

    Here's 2 things you can't keep saying in combination:

    1. Conor is hopeless, Floyd will embarrass him and destroy him.
    2. The fight is a con where Conor will be allowed to perform well.

    Either Conor is going to get destroyed or he isn't.

    PICK ONE

    It's embarrassing you feel the need to constantly sit on the fence and hint at shenanigans.


    Just let it go wonder this has been going on weeks now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Conor via DQ
    I have no doubt that Conor will KO Floyd within 3 rounds, Floyd is past it, Conor is the future. Just hope that when it happens the boxing community give Conor the credit he deserves instead of coming up with all sorts of excuses


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    scudzilla wrote: »
    I have no doubt that Conor will KO Floyd within 3 rounds, Floyd is past it, Conor is the future. Just hope that when it happens the boxing community give Conor the credit he deserves instead of coming up with all sorts of excuses


    I'll take it your genuine, how much are you lumping on this certainty?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    Danny2580 wrote: »
    Just thought I'd point out something I think is interesting from a purely objective point of view (and might bore everyone to tears!). I'm a boxing fan myself, and a casual McGregor fan. Certainly wouldn't call myself an expert on boxing or MMA. Sports betting is my area, though, and I think the prices here are worth a mention.

    Betfair's market is widely regarded as the most efficient predictor of outcomes, and it currently shows McGregor as an 11/2 shot to go and win. That suggests that if this fight was staged 13 times, the market would expect Mayweather to win 11 times, and McGregor twice. Or more simply, that McGregor has a one in six-and-a-half chance of winning.

    To put it into a bit more context, Chelsea play Everton at Stamford Bridge at the end of August. How surprised would you be if Everton won? Sure, it would be unexpected, but hardly earth-shattering. It might be surprising, then, that the odds of an Everton win in that game are identical to the odds of a McGregor win in this fight.

    The view of many I've spoken to would contradict this - the suggestion being that it's a bit of a farce, and Floyd should cruise to a handy victory barring an act of god or injury during the fight. If this was the case, Mayweather would probably be priced up at around 1/20 - suggesting he would win 20 out of 21 fights against McGregor.

    Bookmakers of course have to be careful, and they can't be too generous with McGregor's price with tonnes of patriotic money around. But that Betfair market is nothing if not efficient, and I have to say that despite having no strong opinion on the outcome of the fight, I was surprised to see Mayweather priced as big as he is. If you put your money down and he wins, there's an 18% return on investment made for an apparent farce / certainty.

    To sum up in one sentence: the market is factoring something in, in McGregor's favour, that those who think Mayweather is an out-and-out certainty are not.
    ohh dear


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,976 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    Conor via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    I'll take it your genuine, how much are you lumping on this certainty?

    yep, genuine, gonna put 20quid on a ko in each of the first 3 rounds


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    scudzilla wrote: »
    yep, genuine, gonna put 20quid on a ko in each of the first 3 rounds


    You can get group betting if you shop around for 1-3 inclusive, stick more on sure pay for x mas in August.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Just let it go wonder this has been going on weeks now.

    This is a simple straightforward boxing match with 2 guys getting into the ring.

    I can't think of a single good reason why Floyd would want to let Conor perform well and land punches on his face.

    Punches hurt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,445 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The only 'con' here is you.

    Getting your excuses in every other post in case Conor goes out there and flattens Floyd.

    Here's 2 things you can't keep saying in combination:

    1. Conor is hopeless, Floyd will embarrass him and destroy him.
    2. The fight is a con where Conor will be allowed to perform well.

    Either Conor is going to get destroyed or he isn't.

    PICK ONE

    It's embarrassing you feel the need to constantly sit on the fence and hint at shenanigans.

    This event is a con...

    Nothing to do with shenanigans.. no matter what does or does not happen the event by its very being is the con, and it seems you're either too obtuse or too far up Conor's hole to realise this.

    I actually don't care who wins, and will make no excuses no matter what happens.

    Mayweather is actually the biggest chancer and spoofer in all of this, not Conor!


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