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wonderfullife wrote: » I think he can still make 145lbs if he borderline kills himself to do it but I don't see him being as effective over 12-rounds doing it. Even 154lbs is still a 20lb weight cut for him. Holly Holm came out and said she expects Conor to be very good in the clinch exchanges with Floyd. She's the best placed observer given she was a world champion boxer and a world champion in MMA.Mind you, she also gives Conor a decent chance of WINNING. So you'd probably dismiss her as "clueless" despite the fact she has world titles in both sports.
DerrickL wrote: » Why you say that?
DerrickL wrote: » Boxers hit far harder than MMA fighters.
Conor's chin is going to be obliterated and body punched to shreds.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » What utter rubbish. Some do, some don't. There is more blunt force involved in mma for a start and so it's fair to say that mma fighters in general get hit harder.......... ever seen a boxer get an injury like this? With boxing it's more cumulative damage. Ha. The notion that the punches Floyd throws will be more powerful than anything he has been hit with thus far is absurd! It's Mayweather's skill that will be the major obstacle, not his power ffs.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » There's an awful lot of assumptions on what the non boxer won't be able to do in a boxing ring under boxing rules also.
Sweet Science wrote: » I doubt she actually believes this.
cloudatlas wrote: » She gave them both a decent chance of winning, she didn't come out on either side. “I do think the longer the fight goes – I mean that's Mayweather's style – the longer the fight goes he really gets people's timing and really starts to pick them apart,” continued Holm. “If McGregor wins, it will be in the early rounds. If it goes longer, it goes to Mayweather. Anything can happen in that fight.”- Holly Holm
Sweet Science wrote: » Yes but with boxing gloves on its a lot different. I can see where you are coming from though as the clinch would be his best chance to land .
Sweet Science wrote: » Ah come on now . And that was after a knee by the way from MVP
walshb wrote: » Land what? Back of the head shots? Low blows? To date Conor has shown no inside game in pro boxing. I don't think you will see it in August.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » What do mean "ah come on now"? People are suggesting that Conor won't be able to take the kind of powerful shots Mayweather will be throwing...... the point is that McGregor has taken knees to the damn face which has considerably more blunt force (or lbf... pound force) than anything Mayweather could throw. Cumulative punches from Mayweather could for sure result in a KO but it's laughable to say Mayweather will hit him harder than he has already been hit. Not a hope.
Sweet Science wrote: » We can all agree she talked pc nonsense
wonderfullife wrote: » I didn't realise you boxing forum guys had such amazing psychic abilities. You guys have now read minds and told us the following: 1. Conor doesn't believe he will win, despite him saying so. 2. John Kavanagh doesn't believe Conor will win, despite him saying so. 3. Holly Holm doesn't believe Conor can win, despite her saying he can. We can't "all agree it's nonsense" because those of us who follow MMA know that Conor McGregor, John Kavanagh and Holly Holm are not shrinking violets who say stuff they don't believe. It might be hard to wrap your brains around but there are many people who believe Conor can win and will win.
Sweet Science wrote: » I think people meant he would punch harder
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Eh, I know.... which was why I started out by saying 'Some do, some don't'. Referencing how mma fighters like Conor take knees to the head on the regular, without being knocked out, was to show how foolish it is to say that he would be troubled by the power from Mayweather's punch given that mma fighters don't punch as hard. Penny dropping there yet? Again: it is the cumulative effect of Mayweather's punches (given his boxing skills) which Conor has to worry about not his power.... he's been hit with far more power and it din't faze him.
Sweet Science wrote: » I'd say there are people who think he will win . You are possibly one . They are delusional though.
wonderfullife wrote: » That's fair to say people are delusional but don't keep saying they don't believe it. Just take them at face value I've said from day 1 Conor can win this fight but I'm still leaning Floyd round 9. I might change my pick depending on how the next 7 weeks unfold. Cris Cyborg sparred Claressa Shields the other day. Yes Shields comfortably got the better of the session but Cris still landed. Conor will land plenty. Floyd's a boxer not a cat.
Sweet Science wrote: » I think you misunderstood the point
wonderfullife wrote: » 1. Conor doesn't believe he will win, despite him saying so. 2. John Kavanagh doesn't believe Conor will win, despite him saying so. 3. Holly Holm doesn't believe Conor can win, despite her saying he can.
wonderfullife wrote: » It might be hard to wrap your brains around but there are many people who believe Conor can win and will win.
Lukker- wrote: Bayless will likely be reffing and he seems to think the clinch has been outlawed
Fromvert wrote: » More goes into KO'ing someone than just sheer power. The accuracy and timing of the shot is vital. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but your posts read as if power is the only thing involved in KO'ing someone.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » I am speaking about power because that is what the user cited.. maybe make these arguments to them as I certainly don't think these things at all. In fact I have said in the above posts that the cumulative effect of punches from Floyd is what will most likely result in Conor being beaten. Oh and it's: "Precision beats power, timing beats speed"
