Django99 wrote: » Well if we take emotion out of opinion and use just logic, the above is the only conclusion you could come to. The fact that McGregor doesn't belong in the ring with Mayweather is in no way a put down to McGregor. Some of the names you have mentioned above are some a time boxing greats, and they didn't look like they belonged in the ring with Mayweather. The McGregor attitude of nothing is impossible is a noble one, no doubt. And it's gotten him to the top of the MMA world, first time two belt holder, knocked out an MMA legend in 13 seconds, put on great shows against Diaz even in defeat, headlined the first MMA card in MSG. All extraordinary achievements. But to think he is the man to finally defeat Mayweather is delusional. There is no logical way to make him anything but a 20/1+ outsider (I make him much, much higher odds than that). The fact that the fight is happening, and that it will probably be in the top two selling boxing PPVs of all time, shows that the general public do not understand combat sports. They do not seem to realise that boxing and MMA are different sports.
martyos121 wrote: » The fact that you can back Mayweather as long as 1/6 suggests the bookies don't understand combat sports either. If I wasn't afraid of the possibility of shenanigans in this bout, I would genuinely put everything I own on it, and whatever I could loan. In a proper contest, he's 1/50 at worst, but given the money surrounding this and the money a potential rematch will do, myself and many others will probably have to bet somewhat conservatively, just in case.
Django99 wrote: » The bookies don't fix the price based on the probability of an event alone though, they base it on the money being placed and all the money is going on McGregor. I have the same fears as you, and I'd also put literally everything I own on Mayweather at 1/6 if I could.
martyos121 wrote: » Fair point, there are a number of factors that go into a price. The fact that he's so long suggests that there's a ridiculous amount going on Conor to win this, and that beggars belief to be honest. I can't imagine any high rollers even considering a wager on McGregor so it must be a huge amount of normal enough bets going on him. I've seen a few already pop up on my Facebook feed but if people are confident enough in the integrity of the fight to back Mayweather, these idiots are doing others a big favour.
wonderfullife wrote: » I'd love to hear someone explain to me why Conor couldn't land the shot Judah landed in identical circumstances. He's an accurate puncher and there was no sophistication or footwork involved from Zab.
EagererBeaver wrote: » Because Judah was an elite, world class, P4P top 10 boxer, the Baldomir loss notwithstanding. McGregor is not. Simple. McGregor being accurate and firing off shots (timing, precision etc etc etc) against Aldo and Diaz and Alvarez isn't comparable to Judah landing on Mayweather. As Malignaggi has been saying repeatedly, there are levels to this thing.
Gamebred wrote: » Jab Zudah as mentioned is a multiple time world champion, Conor out striking people like Alvarez Mendes and Holloway means jack for obvious reasons, wrestlers who have over hand rights, I think you know deep down hes going to get absolutely hammered I honestly wouldnt take 100/1 about him beating Mayweather, I would back a 50 year Floyd to beat him never mind 40 look at Bernard Hopkins hes about 50 and still at the top till recently.
wonderfullife wrote: » I don't care if Zab Judah was a mini-Muhammad Ali, my point is clear: Floyd dropped his high left guard in response to 2 pawing jabs and Judah hit him with a straight left down with middle, with just one step-in. If the circumstances were IDENTICAL, Conor also hits him. Simple as that. Conor isn't missing with that left hand against anybody who drops their guard and plants their feet. There's no guarantee Floyd makes the same mistake again but Conor definitely lands it.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Rumours going around that they may do a press conference in Dublin at some stage to promote PPV - seems unlikely to me but for the sake of argument, does anyone know if these things are open to the public or are they media / invitees only? And if they're open to the public, how does one generally go about getting a ticket?
Gamebred wrote: » This is how delusional people like you giving him a chance are, your going back 11 years ago to find one punch a world champion boxer landed on him that might mean Conor can land it you're off your head Wonder, As for the above punches Floyd has taken in his last few fights bar the Maidana 1 fight I'd say he hasnt come out of 3rd gear he took the urine out the likes of Manny and Canelo.
Gamebred wrote: » As for the above punches Floyd has taken in his last few fights bar the Maidana 1 fight I'd say he hasnt come out of 3rd gear he took the urine out the likes of Manny and Canelo.
wonderfullife wrote: » We have a ton of evidence if any human being stands stationary and flat-footed in front of Conor that he will land that left hand.
wonderfullife wrote: » Good. They landed 200 punches on him. So if that's him taking the piss, then at least it might give Conor a chance. People are talking about Floyd like he's Neo. You're all watching too much Keanu Reeves. Floyd is a great boxer but he does get hit and he does get hurt. Conor is a great martial artist who also gets hit and gets hurt. The trick in both sports is neither man gets hit cleanly and hurt very often. Max Kellerman and Walshb and the old school boxing purists are delusional if they think Conor won't land punches. They're not delusional about Conor's lack of experience but they are delusional about Floyd. If it goes 12-rounds I'm confident Conor lands at an average of 8 a round for a respectable 95-100.
walshb wrote: » But 0 evidence that he lands it in a boxing ring under boxing rules against a career veteran ATG pro boxer.
wonderfullife wrote: » What has a boxing ring and boxing rules got to do with landing a straight left from 3 feet away when someone momentarily drops their guard? The straight lefts Conor landed in MMA that I showed you were all thrown and landed on his feet, with gloves and set up with jabs not kicks.
Gamebred wrote: » All of us want him to win but hes going to be like a drunk in there on queer st getting sat down, say floyd who beat Berto for example shows up are you giving Conor a hope or are you pinning your hopes hes gotten old fast in his time off?
wonderfullife wrote: » Look, I'm not arguing Conor beats him but I'm definitely arguing he will land way more punches than 0.
EagererBeaver wrote: » Look at him in the Alvarez fight. Admittedly toying with him but the left have was constantly raised and cocked, ready to go. b) your argument rests on McGregor being able to act, mimic, behave like an elite boxer which, broken record time, we all agree he is not.
walshb wrote: » I think you will win that argument. BTW, 1 is way more than 0.
wonderfullife wrote: » Throw out a prediction of how many punches Conor will land in total on the official Compubox numbers?
GerryDerpy wrote: » The laws of physics change if you are an elite boxer wonder, didn't you know?! That straight left through the guard is my KO prediction.
wonderfullife wrote: » It's crazy the way some people are talking like Floyd could fight Conor with both hands tied behind his back and Conor still wouldn't hit him.
