ancapailldorcha wrote: » Fratton Fred wrote: » Who knows, the world has gone stark raving bonkers at the moment. If May and Sturgeon go in to a coalition (I know Sturgeon isn't in Westminster, but you get my drift), then I guess anything is possible. It may be political suicide for them both, but it looks like they are both on borrowed time any way. Sturgeon would demand Indyref2 and/or full membership of the single market though and that's if she overcomes her dislike of the Tories.
Fratton Fred wrote: » Who knows, the world has gone stark raving bonkers at the moment. If May and Sturgeon go in to a coalition (I know Sturgeon isn't in Westminster, but you get my drift), then I guess anything is possible. It may be political suicide for them both, but it looks like they are both on borrowed time any way.
blanch152 wrote: » SF are at a crossroads. They are not in government in Belfast or Dublin, they are not even in parliament in London. They have had opportunities in the last year to achieve progress in all three places - talk about a coalition in Dublin, join the Assembly while letting the inquiry take its course in Belfast and block a hard Brexit in London - yet they have sat on their hands. That is the message Micheal Martin was putting out there this morning and it does raise the question as to what is the point of voting for SF when they don't achieve anything for you, even when it is possible for them to make a difference.
blanch152 wrote: » SF will now be desperate for an Assembly deal. As Micheal Martin put it on radio this morning, SF stood around and let FG form a government, they brought the Assembly down and now they are standing around letting the Conservatives and DUP get on with a hard Brexit. Makes you wonder why anyone would bother voting for them as they will just sit on their hands. Quite ironic to hear Gerry calling on others to create a triangle on Brexit between London, Belfast and Dublin, when SF are doing nothing. If SF want to deliver for Northern Ireland, they could take their seats in Westminister and ensure there is no hard Brexit.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Sturgeon would demand Indyref2 and/or full membership of the single market though and that's if she overcomes her dislike of the Tories.
FrancieBrady wrote: » blanch152 wrote: » SF are at a crossroads. They are not in government in Belfast or Dublin, they are not even in parliament in London. They have had opportunities in the last year to achieve progress in all three places - talk about a coalition in Dublin, join the Assembly while letting the inquiry take its course in Belfast and block a hard Brexit in London - yet they have sat on their hands. That is the message Micheal Martin was putting out there this morning and it does raise the question as to what is the point of voting for SF when they don't achieve anything for you, even when it is possible for them to make a difference. :D:D I think parties are at 'crossroads' when their vote falls. When their votes massively increase to give them extra seats they are firmly on the motorway. Michael Martin patronising the Northern electorate again. What is the point of voting FF if they keep FG in power?
NIMAN wrote: » A Tory/DUP government. Help us all.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I suspect that part of the deal with the DUP will be 'swallow some grass and get the institutions up and running again'. Would be ridiculous for the tories to be shored up by a party who wont allow democracy to happen at home.
blanch152 wrote: » SF will now be desperate for an Assembly deal. As Micheal Martin put it on radio this morning, SF stood around and let FG form a government, they brought the Assembly down and now they are standing around letting the Conservatives and DUP get on with a hard Brexit. Makes you wonder why anyone would bother voting for them as they will just sit on their hands. Quite ironic to hear Gerry calling on others to create a triangle on Brexit between London, Belfast and Dublin, when SF are doing nothing.
sink wrote: » A large amount of their support comes from farmers, who are dead against any customs barriers on the border. They're an irrational bunch, anti-EU, but still know which side their bread is buttered. They don't have to answer to anyone when it comes to supporting the customs union, the Tories can't leverage them any other way. The DUP were dead against a special status for Northern Ireland fearing that would lead to greater North-South integration and a drifting apart from the mainland. The only way that would come about is through a Labour coalition with SDLP, which is effectively dead in the water. They don't have to worry about it and so can make any demands they like without worrying about the nationalist opposition getting a look in.
Mancomb Seepgood wrote: » Hard to believe that the Tories and DUP reached a deal so quickly.They deserve each other!
Lux23 wrote: » I can't for the life of me understand why the DUP want a hard Brexit or Brexit at all - how many of their core rural supporters rely on EU subsidies?
Deleted User wrote: » Any links?
LeinsterDub wrote: » The DUP will just draw down more money from their favourite other union
wes wrote: » Coalition will be very weak. Only take a small group of rebels to bring down the government. Wouldn't surprise me, if the UK is back to the polls soon. Brexit really broke the UK. Well the conservatives did to be more accurately. Foolish gamble last year, and another this year. The EU can play hardball knowing full well how weak the Tory's are. Wouldn't take much to cause the government to fall.
FrancieBrady wrote: » This is what will happen now. Massive instability, a Labour party growing in confidence and a tory party imploding from in fighting and power struggles. Any minor party is well out of it in my opinion.
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