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Truck driven into crowd in Stockholm - No Speculation

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http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0407/866105-stockholm/

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/several-casualties-after-truck-drives-down-pedestrian-street-in-stockholm-35603395.html

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jacksie66

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ziggyman17

Go to Sweden now and stand at a bus stop and you would be suprised by how the foreign nationals out number Swedish people, the country is over run and we are going the same way..

gw80

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The obvious glee of the many posters who believe in giving terrorist scum what they want never fails to sicken

I suspect most of the glee in this situation will be coming from the "moderates" living in sweden, praising there god at the same time.

RebelButtMunch

Bacchus wrote: »

You could have GPS and locked in route planning on all trucks. Any significant deviation from a route that isn't cleared by a third party triggers an alarm. Doesn't stop someone from hijacking a smaller vehicle though.

You'll never be able to stop an attack. You have to stop them wanting to attack.

Tabnabs

Heavily armed police have arrived in numbers at the central train station in Stockholm which is being quickly evacuated. All hospitals in area on emergency footing.

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topper75

Ochón Ochón for the simple days of yore when they were just rapists.

jacksie66

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Nerdlingr

Bacchus wrote: »

You could have GPS and locked in route planning on all trucks. Any significant deviation from a route that isn't cleared by a third party triggers an alarm. Doesn't stop someone from hijacking a smaller vehicle though.

Yeah, like we saw westminster, anyone can get into a car and do damage if they want.
Its just that with hijackings of company vehicles specifically, can anything be done? press a personal alarm, goes back to base, contact-no response from driver, police alerted to possible incident involving so and so reg number etc. i dunno.

rip to those involved.

biko

Image of suspect arrested

Depp

jacksie66 wrote: »

Stop bombing the **** out of their countries and wiping out whole families would be a good start..

sweden, serial bombers of innocents alright :rolleyes:

Bacchus

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

You'll never be able to stop an attack. You have to stop them wanting to attack.

The question wasn't how to stop an attack. The question was specifically about these truck attacks. Technology can be used to restrict the ability of attackers to carry out THIS specific type of attack.

I agree with your sentiment but that's not what my post was addressing.

Rightwing

Tabnabs wrote: »

Heavily armed police have arrived in numbers at the central train station in Stockholm which is being quickly evacuated. All hospitals in area on emergency footing.

Arriving when the horse has bolted. These lone wolf attacks are all but impossible to stop.

The_Kew_Tour

Oh sorry "Sweden did deserve it"

Welcome to Sweden the land of the murders:rolleyes::rolleyes:

ziggyman17

jacksie66 wrote: »

Stop bombing the **** out of their countries and wiping out whole families would be a good start..

But the ****er who did this was probably born in Sweden, the trouble is, that when they come to Europe they do not want to inergrate and feel part of the country they are living in, the expect the country they have come to and their people to adopt their ways,, the ****ers should stay where they are if they do not want to embrace their new home..

gw80

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

You'll never be able to stop an attack. You have to stop them wanting to attack.

Are you for real?
They have been given asylum in one of the most receiving countrys in the world who have bent over backwards for refugees,
Are you blaming Sweden for this attack?

JupiterKid

RIP to the victims.

I'm actually surprised that Sweden hasn't had a major terrorist attack given the unchecked immigration that is destroying the country. Make no mistake, they utterly hate us and want to destroy us.

Time to start fighting back.

jacksie66

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Depp

ziggyman17 wrote: »

But the ****er who did this was probably born in Sweden, the trouble is, that when they come to Europe they do not want to inergrate and feel part of the country they are living in, the expect the country they have come to and their people to adopt their ways,, the ****ers should stay where they are if they do not want to embrace their new home..

few unconfirmed reports say hes tunisian born

Ronaldinho

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The obvious glee of the many posters who believe in giving terrorist scum what they want never fails to sicken

This is precisely the sort of self-loathing that has contributed to our continent getting into this mess.

ziggyman17

Depp wrote: »

few unconfirmed reports say hes tunisian born

And living in Sweden for years probably..

Robxxx7

jacksie66 wrote: »

It's a western country. Their target is western society as a whole..

Surely you are not allowed to generalise all of western society in being complicit in bombing the Middle east ...

Hank Scorpio

Not surprised anymore.

RIP to the victims.

Walter H Price

Before people start the autistic screeching about mental illness please remember

Mental Illness is an affliction , Religion is a choice

RIP to those who have died , your government and euopean politics has let you down

Depp

gw80 wrote: »

Are you for real?
They have been given asylum in one of the most receiving countrys in the world who have bent over backwards for refugees,
Are you blaming Sweden for this attack?

I wouldn't have really taken that as blaming sweden, and hes right, we can stop attacks here and there but thats just treating the symptoms not curing the disease, the only way to truly stop this is to combat islamist ideology

biko

Swedsh PM says everything points to a terror attack.

This is not the first time there have been an attack either.
Last one was Taimour Abdulwahab in 2010 that tried to blow people up one the same street (Queen Street).
Fortunately the bombvest exploded before he reached the crowds and he was the single casualty.

Irish Praetorian

jacksie66 wrote: »

Stop bombing the **** out of their countries and wiping out whole families would be a good start..

You're doing what many people are doing which is projecting a rational grievance mindset onto religious fundamentalists - or basically ignoring people when they say they are doing it for religious reasons and asking 'what do they really want'.

I find it difficult to imagine that in a country like ours that has seen a shift in religious devotion only in relatively recent terms, that people would ignore or forget just how powerful the drive for salvation can be. These attacks make all the sense in the world if you actually conceive that, stage as it may sound, some people actually talk their faith seriously, and will do what they can to observe it.

Bacchus

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Yeah, like we saw westminster, anyone can get into a car and do damage if they want.
Its just that with hijackings of company vehicles specifically, can anything be done? press a personal alarm, goes back to base, contact-no response from driver, police alerted to possible incident involving so and so reg number etc. i dunno.

rip to those involved.

The are certainly things that can be done for this specific type attack. The problem is implementing a solution across enough vehicles that it actually makes a difference. Most fleets likely have GPS tracking so at least the potential refit effort could be low. What you need then is oversight of that data, sprinkle in some big data analytics and you'd get someway towards an early warning system. It would not be a trivial thing to implement and there's probably a load of red tape involved but in theory it would work. The other big problem is smaller companies that don't have fleet management solutions. How do you account for those.

Personal alarms are fine in theory but in all likelihood, an attack on a driver would be too swift for a driver to react.

Depp

Walter H Price wrote: »

Before people start the autistic screeching about mental illness please remember

Mental Illness is an affliction , Religion is a choice

RIP to those who have died , your government and euopean politics has let you down

this x100, using mental illness as a scapegoat for these attacks is disgusting, and the irony of it usually coming from people that would call themselves ''progressives'' would be hilarious if it wasnt so sick

ceadaoin.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

The obvious glee of the many posters who believe in giving terrorist scum what they want never fails to sicken

Really, That's what sickens you? What is you think that they want? People discussing their attacks on an Internet forum?

RebelButtMunch

Bacchus wrote: »

The question wasn't how to stop an attack. The question was specifically about these truck attacks. Technology can be used to restrict the ability of attackers to carry out THIS specific type of attack.

I agree with your sentiment but that's not what my post was addressing.

I hear ya, but if its not a truck, its a jcb. If its not a jcb its a car, or knife or hammer, or anything else...