The Irish army should be called in to do battle with rhododendrons because the plants are "taking over" a national park, the government has been told.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » and absolutely nothing nothing to do with the post you originally replied to. You do know what the quote button is for, right?
Special Circumstances wrote: » That's the joke. You'll get there. Maybe. It's a bit of logical/mathsy joke but when you realise the unbiased statistics to support the car insurance things are filed in the same magical filing cabinet as the "3 glasses of guinness are wiping people out throughout the country" statistics... you'll wet yourself, it's a slow burner of a joke I'll admit.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » perhaps you should have a look at the post i replied to. I have made no comment at all on the new limits. And none of the above explains the bit about 15 year old cars. this is basic stuff
Special Circumstances wrote: » Lost again? A good chunk of the thread is about rhododendrons so you can skip that to get yourself re-calibrated as to where you are posting. Skip to the bit about drink driving. It starts just a little bit before your posts... about drink driving. This is basic stuff
ohnonotgmail wrote: » what in gods name are you talking about?
Special Circumstances wrote: » So... is it the extra glass that does it? Or is it only dangerous if your car is over 15 years old aswell?
Joeytheparrot wrote: » Are you seriously saying most drink driving accidents are mainly caused by people drinking 1 pint?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » Nobody has said that most drink driving accidents are mainly caused by people drinking 1 pint.
Don't Chute! wrote: » How do you make that out?
Jack the Stripper wrote: » Let's all drink three pints ffs leave it out.
BattleCorp wrote: » Accurate statistics - no. I've been knocked off my bike due to briars growing out. I wasn't really injured but if a car was coming along behind me I would have been 'brown bread'. Plenty of other crashes caused in rural areas due to ditches being overgrown and visibility reduced.
Don't Chute! wrote: » I've never been able to understand the Irish obsession with drinking just enough to be under the limit for driving. Why can't they just not drink at all?
Grayson wrote: » I never said that you said scuttered. You think it's ok to drink three glasses then you'd be ok with bus drivers or commercial pilots or ambulance drivers drinking and driving? That's my point. They might not be scuttered but they'd be in no condition to take responsibility for the lives of others.
Grayson wrote: » As for a bus driver who drank a pint at a break and everything was ok? Well, I guess we should encourage drivers to because we have an anecdote.
However yourself and healy rae seem to think that your anecdotes and hunches are more accurate than actual research.
Grayson wrote: » Drinking impairs your reaction times and your ability to control a vehicle. Anyone who refuses to accept that is an idiot....or drunk. Anyone who drinks any alcohol before driving is taking an additional risk that could lead to theirs or someone elses death.
Jack the Stripper wrote: » Are you one of those yuppies who drink craft beer?
Jack the Stripper wrote: » Where did he say a glass was a half pint? Link?
IrishZeus wrote: » Does not compute!
jmayo wrote: » Once in my nearly 30 years of driving have I had a glass of cider and drove afterwards. There was a lady involved and I left half the pint behind me..
Grayson wrote: » The new laws aren't a zero limit. The way it was it said that over 80mg you got a ban. From 50-80 mg you got points. The new law just says there's no points given, just a ban. As for a bus driver who drank a pint at a break and everything was ok? Well, I guess we should encourage drivers to because we have an anecdote. Also, it doesn't mention it in the article but the research does indicate that lowering the limit for banning would actually save lives. However yourself and healy rae seem to think that your anecdotes and hunches are more accurate than actual research.
jmayo wrote: » What a load of hyperbole. If you are so impaired after a pint and a half over a few hours then fecks sake I really do worry about you. Were there thousands killed when the drink drive limit was 2 pints ? In lots of countries people actually have a drink at lunch time and you know what they don't kill each other in the afternoon nor make disasterous decisions because they are so impaired. No one has said, including Healy Rae, someone should be driving when they have had a few pints, but yet people hop on this. (not directed at you Grayson but others) I often wonder if some people can read or if they just hop on headlines and mangle them to suit their agenda or beliefs. And Healy Rae is right also when he has said that drink is often used as an excuse for poor road conditions and other factors. It is like every other shytology in this country where someone finds an easy so called solution rather than really facing the causes and the problems for people dying. It is easy to bring in a new law that says a zero limit, but what about actual enforcement of even existing laws. It is already come out that a huge chunk of the Garda tests were bogus. There is a problem with young (and sometimes middle aged) people driving drunk as skunks and often on drugs, but this is usually late at night or early morning when there are shag all Gardaà around to monitor those situations. A bit like the Air corps and availability of aircraft, the AGS really provide a daylight service, well apart from a few select locations where they can hide out shooting fish in a barrel. No amount of new strict laws will save people if the usual enforcement is continued. PS I was on a bus many years ago where the driver stopped in a town and went in and had a pint. I know it is not something that should be allowed but you know what we didn't crash, we didn't cause carnage on the roads and we all eventually reached our destination.
jmayo wrote: » Well maybe you should acquaint yourself with some facts before accusing other people of being unable to read. I really find it hard to believe someone in Ireland doesn't know what a glass of beer is.
parasite wrote: » No fan of Healy-Rae, but he was exaggerating for effect, it didn't stop BBC doing a sneering Paddywhackery 'article' though and you duly tugged your forelock
Jack the Stripper wrote: » Maybe it's you that needs to read, yes he said glasses but a pint glass is also a glass. Believe that. Where did he say they were half pints?
Jack the Stripper wrote: » I never knew that now.
Grayson wrote: » If you think 2-3 glasses of guinness wouldn't impair peoples ability then I'm assuming you'd be ok with say commercial pilots or bus drivers drinking whilst on the job. Why not doctors or dentists? Drinking impairs your reaction times and your ability to control a vehicle. Anyone who refuses to accept that is an idiot....or drunk. Anyone who drinks any alcohol before driving is taking an additional risk that could lead to theirs or someone elses death.
