The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » It seems to me to be simply because eir is likely to connect up those premises with a subsidy from the gov because they are in the NBP listing. There might also be some physical reason for not doing them initially and so might need to charge extra for connections.
user1842 wrote: » I wish this was given to ESB/Vofafone to do the entire roll-out. You could get rid of all the telephones poles in the countryside and just have one cable entering your house. It would save so much network maintenance costs in the long run and thus reduce internet costs. But alas, it was not be
marno21 wrote: » Discussion with The Last Word "tech expert" Andy O'Donoghue on the NBP today. "Wires should not have a part in this plan". I won't go on a rant but the level of misinformation here is shocking.http://www.filedropper.com/thelastword04april1
daraghwal wrote: » Isn't eir the only company can use the splitters etc. that they put up during the 300,000?
joe_99 wrote: » No. NBP bidders can access them too. DN stated it in the presentation.
AidenL wrote: » But isnt it the amber homes in the NBP, but they are being bypassed? Or am I reading it wrong? The light blues are the Eir contracted homes?
daraghwal wrote: » How can the government make open eir let siro/enet piggyback off their network to extend their own? Would that not cause nightmares with faults etc.?
rob808 wrote: » would they be counting FTTC connections with that figure.
KOR101 wrote: » @Navi........what do you make of this on p.33) ?russian pic hosting
Johnboy1951 wrote: » We should bear in mind that from the perspective of this agreement (and the NBP) there is no real preference for fibre over any other means of connection. There are other requirements of course to qualify for gov intervention and the NBP. Provided the minimum connection speeds are attained the premises are out of the NBP. So, yes, this contract, and the figures quoted within, would cover any and all connection types made that take the premises out of the NBP. It is unfortunate, that from our perspective, it is not what we wanted to see, nor what we were led to expect. We wanted to see FTTH connections separated from all other types of connection. But from a user's point of view, it matters very little what their connection type is (wireless, VDSL, FTTH etc) provided they have a sufficient connection for their needs. My fear would be that in say 5 years time, when the minimum requirement for useful broadband has risen to maybe 100Mb/s there will be a huge number of premises which will not be able to get that speed without further investment from eir in their vdsl roll out. It might not get that investment without 'encouragement'. We might yet see a new digital divide.
KOR101 wrote: » The viability of the state-subsidised broadband initiative has been called into question after a deal to remove hundreds of thousands of homes from the scheme was agreed with one of the bidders. Brian Stanley and Thomas Pringle give it their all.https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eir-deal-may-jeopardise-rural-broadband-tk89wm2kq
rob808 wrote: » KOR101 can you copy and paste the full article if you can thanks.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Yes 300 premises in Carrigaline and 490 in Swordshttp://www.openeir.ie/news/First-rural-FTTH-locations-announced/
Deedsie wrote: » Is there a date set out for the tendering process for the remaining 500000 houses covered by the NBP? When can we expect to hear anything about that?
user1842 wrote: » http://www.dccae.gov.ie/documents/Commitment%20Agreement.pdf Can someone tell me where in the contract does it say that 90% of EIR's roll-out will be FTTH?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » The 'amber homes' are not yet being serviced and won't be until the contracts for the NBP are in place, when whoever wins the contracts will receive a subsidy for each amber house connected.
Villain wrote: » Yep agree with that, if you are in a light blue area and served by vDSL and meet the 30/6 speeds then in years to come you may well be the ones to left behind when amber areas get actual FTTH. This new contract with eir is a pure mess and has so many issues I could write for weeks
AidenL wrote: » Yep, but doesn't that meant that the hardest to serve, furthest away homes will be done first by Eir, long before the NBP?
Is it not more likely though that the light blue areas will get FTTH as they are more remote and spread out whereas amber near a town may be served by VDSL?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » No, eir have committed to doing ONLY the light blue premises unsubsidised. They - like other contenders for the contracts - will do the amber premises with a subsidy IF they get a contract. I think it likely that some light blue and amber areas will get VDSL as suits eir and their plans.
AidenL wrote: » We are saying the same thing here. Light blue, further away, unsubsidised, harder to reach, but done first, with faster speeds. Amber, closer, subsidised, done last and slower speeds. Whole thing seems illogical to me.
