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NegativeCreep

Last year I graduated from college and since then I've had 2 jobs and have hated both of them (currently still doing the second one although I don't know for how much longer.)

It's not even that I hate the jobs that much, it's just that I hate the fact that I have no free time, someone is constantly on my back piling more and more work on me. I have a 2 hour commute into work and a 2.5 hour commute home from work (travelling within Dublin on public transport which in itself is a joke) which leaves me with about 4 hours at home in the evening but I'm too wrecked to do anything then. There are weekends but that's only 2 days and they go far too quickly.

I get paid peanuts, can't afford a car or to move out of my parents house. I have no time to spend with my boyfriend as he is in the same position.

I suppose the question is; when will I get used to this? Or will I ever get used to it?
I estimate that I have about 2000 weeks of this ahead of me assuming I retire at 65. Do I have to wait until I'm 65 to do the things I want to do? to be free? Is this what adult life is? Work for very little in the hopes that by the time I'm retired I'll still be of sound enough mind and body to do the things I want to do?

I suppose I'm thinking about this now as it is Sunday night and I (and I assume most of you) are facing into another week of work and I am dreading it. 1 down 1999 to go.

What do you do to take your mind off these things? How do you forget about the capitalist slog to old age?

I know I'll be called a whiny millennial and that's ok because I am a whiny millennial and there's not much I can do about that.

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pilly

pumpkin4life wrote: »

Jimgoose has got a job he enjoys. That's fùcking class like.

Don't be a hater lad.

I'm not a lad first off.

And second off I'm not a hater either. Do dislike people bragging however.

pilly

jimgoose wrote: »

Simple statement of fact. The point, Grasshopper, is that not everyone has the same experience of these tedious, mundane things, and it changes as you progress through life. I do apologise if you're offended, but that isn't my problem.

Not offended at all, merely slightly irritated at such blatant bragging. You needed to tell us you have a jaguar to make the point? Okay so. Says more about you.

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

I'm not a lad first off.

And second off I'm not a hater either. Do dislike people bragging however.

It is not "bragging" to point out that things considered tedious and mundane by a lot of people can be quite enjoyable, even verging on "awesome", to other people in different circumstances.

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

Not offended at all, merely slightly irritated at such blatant bragging. You needed to tell us you have a jaguar to make the point? Okay so. Says more about you.

To make this particular point fully, yes - to wit, all commutes are not the same. It's fairly common knowledge around here in fairness, that I am a luxobargist and shitheapist 7th Dan. :pac:

Glenster

pilly wrote: »

Brag much?

I don't generally agree with Glenster but a lot of this is bull imho.

Even if not, it's not your average persons experience of a day.

?????

Bit harsh....

pilly

jimgoose wrote: »

To make this particular point fully, yes - to wit, all commutes are not the same. It's fairly common knowledge around here in fairness, that I am a luxobargist and shitheapist 7th Dan. :pac:

No idea what this means?

pilly

Glenster wrote: »

?????

Bit harsh....

Sorry Glen.

ibarelycare

pilly wrote: »

Not offended at all, merely slightly irritated at such blatant bragging. You needed to tell us you have a jaguar to make the point? Okay so. Says more about you.

Your posts are saying a lot more about you than Jimgoose's post said about him. He was pointing out what makes him happy in everyday life. You're coming across as bitter and begrudging.

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

No idea what this means?

Someone who likes owning/driving/servicing/messing with big, comfy, luxurious old cars that are worth fuck-all and have a motor-tax bill the size of the GDP of Guatemala.

NegativeCreep

Harambe wrote: »

Wait til you have a kid OP, that's when the fun starts.

I'm gay so I'll never be able to afford one :pac:

Surreptitious

Leave Jim alone ffs, ye would argue over a fly on the wall, some of ye.

pilly

jimgoose wrote:

Someone who likes owning/driving/servicing/messing with big, comfy, luxurious old cars that are worth ****-all and have a motor-tax bill the size of the GDP of Guatemala.

Apologies so, I obviously don't hang around boards enough.

jimgoose

ibarelycare wrote: »

Your posts are saying a lot more about you than Jimgoose's post said about him. He was pointing out what makes him happy in everyday life. You're coming across as bitter and begrudging.

Ah, she's alright - some people have an awful time of it trying to get to and from work on time. My commuting setup annoys a lot of people! :pac:

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

Apologies so, I obviously don't hang around boards enough.

You're alright. A couple of my mates drive Mercs that cost north of €100k, if they ever start posting to boards you can murder them instead!

eamonnq

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056966169

Luxobarges..............well worth a look.

pilly

ibarelycare wrote: »

Your posts are saying a lot more about you than Jimgoose's post said about him. He was pointing out what makes him happy in everyday life. You're coming across as bitter and begrudging.

Not at all bitter and begrudging. I've an awful lot more in my life than the average joe soap but I can still acknowledge that for the vast majority life is tough.

Doesn't help at all to post, "well I have all this and my life is awesome". OP doesn't have it handy at the moment.

I agree with a lot of people here that you have to look at the long term and it won't always be like that but it's easy for us with the benefit of hindsight.

NegativeCreep

eamonnq wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056966169

Luxobarges..............well worth a look.

I dont understand that. Nice cars being sold cheap? An insurance company would laugh at me if I asked to be insured on one of them

eamonnq

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I dont understand that. Nice cars being sold cheap? An insurance company would laugh at me if I asked to be insured on one of them

Nice cars being sold for what people can get for them.

High tax is usually enough to put people off.

pilly

jimgoose wrote: »

Ah, she's alright - some people have an awful time of it trying to get to and from work on time. My commuting setup annoys a lot of people! :pac:

My commute door to door is 20 minutes, non-stop no traffic lights, view of the Galtee mountains so no annoyance here.

ibarelycare

pilly wrote: »

Not at all bitter and begrudging. I've an awful lot more in my life than the average joe soap but I can still acknowledge that for the vast majority life is tough.

Doesn't help at all to post, "well I have all this and my life is awesome". OP doesn't have it handy at the moment.

I agree with a lot of people here that you have to look at the long term and it won't always be like that but it's easy for us with the benefit of hindsight.

He wasn't replying to the OP in that post though, he was replying to Glenster.

CramCycle

Glenster wrote: »

Really? You would describe the eight hours you spend in work every day as "awesome"?

Pretty damn enjoyable, there is the odd down day but I am involved in something I enjoy and happen to be reasonably good at. People give me money to do what i enjoy. i wish they gave me more but, yeah, pretty damn good.

Making dinner in the evening. Awesome?

I love cooking, I love eating even more.

Commuting to/from work. Awesome?

Pretty damn epic, I love it, great people, bit of fresh air, generally quite enjoyable. I understand that many people don't have as enjoyable commutes as me though.

Getting up in the morning. Awesome?

I get woken most mornings by my partner or my kids, so yes, awesome. When they weren't on the scene, I used to wake at my leisure, also awesome. I love tea or coffee and breakfast.

Don't get me wrong, my life isn't comparably worse that most people's, its probably a lot better than most people I know, but I'm realistic enough not to describe my daily tedium as "awesome".

If I thought my daily life was tedium, I wouldn't call it awesome either. The day I don't learn something new, I will probably follow your line of thinking but thankfully has not happened yet.

robbiezero

Glenster wrote: »

Really? You would describe the eight hours you spend in work every day as "awesome"?

Making dinner in the evening. Awesome?

Commuting to/from work. Awesome?

Getting up in the morning. Awesome?

Don't get me wrong, my life isn't comparably worse that most people's, its probably a lot better than most people I know, but I'm realistic enough not to describe my daily tedium as "awesome".

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

...Doesn't help at all to post, "well I have all this and my life is awesome". OP doesn't have it handy at the moment...

<sigh> First up, that isn't what I was saying at all. Secondly, we are quite aware that the OP "doesn't have it handy at the moment". The trouble is said OP seemed to be worried that this tedious drag-arse life, not atypical for young people getting to grips with life, inclulding this Marine as a youngfella I might add, is all there is until retirement and death. Some of us are trying to point out that it generally gets a lot better, surprisingly quickly in many cases.

jimgoose

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I dont understand that. Nice cars being sold cheap? An insurance company would laugh at me if I asked to be insured on one of them

That's another thing that gets better as you trundle along. Ye shall have faith, yea, and walk upon the waters.

jimgoose

pilly wrote: »

My commute door to door is 20 minutes, non-stop no traffic lights, view of the Galtee mountains so no annoyance here.

So there you are. Like me, thousands would kill to swap for your version of commuting!

chrissb8

I think Millennials have it right. All they're asking is what's the bloody point of it all? To just come into the world, exist in a tandem state of mediocrity and struggling. These are essential things for changing the human mindset to a better place. Of course you get the usual nonsense that it's childish they're lazy etc. That's fine who cares. I care about me and my experience of life and don't give a s**t what you think about how I go about it<<<general mindset of most millennia's I'd imagine or at least what I experience among friends and others my age. That's pretty brave in my opinion. To look at your world and say this ain't right and it isn't.

I think it's actually pretty immature to not ask yourself the questions am I happy? Is this what I want my life to be? That's a fully formed human mind with great self awareness. Unfortunately others like to pretend otherwise that "hey that's just life you get on with it". No. No you really don't. You'll die and whatever about an afterlife this could just be it. So just leave whatever it is you hate because hey here's a little secret. You don't have to do, be anything, be anywhere you don't want to.

I'm not slandering or bumping my generation up anymore than others. Every generation has it's merits and pitfalls. The constant obsession with fame and good looks would be traits I despise in mine. On the other hand my Dad's (64) generation ushered in a generation of equality and understanding.

neonsofa

chrissb8 wrote: »

I think Millennials have it right. All they're asking is what's the bloody point of it all? To just come into the world, exist in a tandem state of mediocrity and struggling. These are essential things for changing the human mindset to a better place. Of course you get the usual nonsense that it's childish they're lazy etc. That's fine who cares. I care about me and my experience of life and don't give a s**t what you think about how I go about it<<<general mindset of most millennia's I'd imagine or at least what I experience among friends and others my age. That's pretty brave in my opinion. To look at your world and say this ain't right and it isn't.

I think it's actually pretty immature to not ask yourself the questions am I happy? Is this what I want my life to be? That's a fully formed human mind with great self awareness. Unfortunately others like to pretend otherwise that "hey that's just life you get on with it". No. No you really don't. You'll die and whatever about an afterlife this could just be it. So just leave whatever it is you hate because hey here's a little secret. You don't have to do, be anything, be anywhere you don't want to.

I'm not slandering or bumping my generation up anymore than others. Every generation has it's merits and pitfalls. The constant obsession with fame and good looks would be traits I despise in mine. On the other hand my Dad's (64) generation ushered in a generation of equality and understanding.

I love how you think your generation is the first to ponder the meaning of life and why we are here :pac:

Every generation has asked that but the fact has always remained that you need money to live/exist so tough **** if you don't enjoy it, it's a bonus if you do though. People absolutely should aim for a career they'll enjoy where possible but it's not a God given right and people shouldn't act like it is. And you can work your ass off to try get that job and still fail and again, tough ****, it's luck of the draw, you'll still need an income.

conorhal

neonsofa wrote: »

I love how you think your generation is the first to ponder the meaning of life and why we are here :pac:

Every generation has asked that but the fact has always remained that you need money to live/exist so tough **** if you don't enjoy it, it's a bonus if you do though. People absolutely should aim for a career they'll enjoy where possible but it's not a God given right and people shouldn't act like it is. And you can work your ass off to try get that job and still fail and again, tough ****, it's luck of the draw, you'll still need an income.

Indeed, what the poster is describing however isn't a personal philosophy, it's what Durkheim described in the 1890's a 'anomie', "the malady of the infinite", and because desire without limit which can never be fulfilled, it leads to a vague dissatisfaction with life that is often produced as "condition in which society provides little moral guidance to individuals", ....or as I might put it, a banging sense of entitlement born out of an enflated ego and an 'I want and I want it now' culture.
Perhaps it hasn't occurred to the poster that many a mediocre life is lived because the person living it is, well, pretty mediocre. Anomie is best expressed these days by the moron 'hopefuls' you see queuing up each year for the X-Factor auditions.

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There's a load of miserable people here. Needlessly miserable, too.

[Deleted User]

Consider two people pondering this issue.

One is inclined towards being negative and dissatisfied ( personality trait ) and or has metal health issue every careers/job/ life situation always has something wrong with it, but they don't have the insight in to themselves to understand that its not the job/career/ in and off its self that is the problem its the way they view the situations.

The other person is not sure if they are happy with their working situation/career choice but understand they have some control over their situation( not total control over their situation) The also have a more realistic and optimistic view of their life and the potential to be contented with life.