The government has published a new map outlining in detail 700,000 rural homes and businesses which will be connected to state-subsidised broadband of at least 30 megabits per second (Mbs) from 2016.
oscarBravo wrote: » Right, but isn't ARPU higher in Ireland than elsewhere? In other words, is this merely a correction?https://etno.eu/news/etno/2015/836
BandMember wrote: » I'm getting really sick and tired of articles like this. As myself and others have said on pretty much every thread like this, even if they connected every single house in the country with 1GB FTTH in the morning, there would still be up to 18 months before you would start to see an uptake on it because (a) the ISP's are not giving accurate information, if indeed they give any at all, of when areas will go live so people are looking elsewhere which leads to (b) people being stuck in contracts as a result of this. Also, (c) pricing is an issue. Most importantly though (d) there are a lot of people in rural areas who don't actually know how to use broadband or what broadband can actually do because they've never known anything other than just above dial up speeds with very low data limits. Once they figure out what you can actually do and word of mouth spreads, you'll see a larger uptake. (e) Don't forget though, not everyone will either want, need or be in a position to sign up any service like this. I'm thinking particularly in rural areas (which are mainly NBP areas) where there is a large elderly population, most of whom have never used nor will ever use the internet. While huge numbers signing up straight away and finally getting proper broadband would be fantastic in an ideal world, the above are just some of the factors why it simply cannot happen. This is a project designed for the long term and the future - not for an instant quick fix. Anyone or any article like the one quoted in this post, are simply disingenious and should be challenged. However, just like every other topic in Ireland, people can just say any 'oul rubbish that comes into their head and people will accept it as a factual statement of truth, without actually bothering to think about it or check it out. Rant over.
BandMember wrote: » I'm getting really sick and tired of articles like this.
damienirel wrote: » If you thought that last one was bad....here this made me puke in my mouth...
Gonzo wrote: » lol @ that article. Why would I ever want a stable fixed fibre to the home solution with up to 1000megs/second now and future upgrade paths, low pings, low contention and reasonable data allowance when I could instead go for Imagine LTE with a wireless signal which may provide half decent speeds, contention issues, a data allowance not fit for purpose, no access to the router, watching the clock and setting steaming services to 480/720p to save on data. Oh and the product will also be obsolete by 2020.
Germany's federal government plans to roll out a gigabit internet service across Germany by 2025, through a government and private consortium known as Netzallianz Digitales Deutschland. The €100bn project will focus on bandwidth, security and response times, minister for transport and digital infrastructure Alexander Dobrindt said. Developments including virtual reality and the internet of things will bring enormous data growth, and the need for more bandwidth, reliable real-time transmission and intelligent networks, Dobrindt said.
plodder wrote: » Maybe this is timely; announced this week.Germany to roll out €100bn gigabit internet network: Preparing for the Internet of Things
Mr Bolger said Imagine customers were guaranteed a minimum download speed of 30 Mbps, which happens to be the minimum speed set down in the NBP tender.
ItHurtsWhenIP wrote: » Lots of LOLz with this one statement. No asterisk to state that some users don't get that in the evenings or that any of the customers who run a little over a pretty mickey mouse limit don't have anything near it until midnight. :rolleyes: And no comments section allowed to correct the propaganda! :eek:
damienirel wrote: » What is the difference between imagine and 4g on lets say 3? Both are lte.
Gonzo wrote: » Won't make much difference to most people as wireless/mobile internet will always have tight data caps.https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/1gbps_broadband_vodafone
Department to significantly reduce size of intervention area after agreement with Eir The number of homes and businesses covered by the National Broadband Plan (NBP) is to be reduced by up to 300,000 following an agreement between the Department of Communications and the State’s largest telecoms group, Eir.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » So eir finally signed the required 'commitment contract'. About time! Those on blue (now yellow) lines had best hope that their area gets connected prior to the awarding of contracts. I fear that with contracts awarded (should eir get one or two) that the 'blue line' areas will be treated just like any other area, which could delay some of those 'blue line' areas significantly, should other areas get preference. That could see a reversal of priorities for some of those 'blue line' areas, unless as part of the 'commitment contract', eir have indicated that the blue lines will be done first.
rob808 wrote: » The blue would still get done but once NBP does start and Eir did win one of the contract they would have to do both at same time the government and EU would want results when NBP starts.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I didn't imply the blue lines would not get done, only that at present they are the highest priority for eir, but if eir win a contract then I fear that priority will disappear as will the blue lines in the contracted region. If eir win only one of the contracts then I would expect that the blue lines in the non-contracted areas would be prioritised which in turn would have an effect on the contracted area. It really does seem that the best for consumers would be for eir to win all or none.
Gonzo wrote: » I would agree with this, Eir have been known to remove priority's in the past such as the 66 town scheme which was all action 2 years ago is now on its last legs for now. All these towns will be done but probably on the back burner for now. Likewise I expect if Eir does win all or part of the NBP, they may delay some of the 2018 yellow lined areas if they are not as important as some of the gaps elsewhere that could be filled in. My guess is that by the time the NBP gets going Eir will be well past 100,000 blue/yellow lines premises passed. Most of the current Spring/Summer and Autumn projected dates would be finished before this even starts.
rob808 wrote: » I hope they can and area don't start slipping again don't want to see winter/spring 2018 for my area.Im looking forward to see the new intervention update map.I hope they don't listen to imagine because I say they be next to ask.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Wow. Where does this leave the other two? Will it even make economic sense for them to continue in the bidding process?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » Why not? It is to be subsidised and only they can say by how much.
Siena Gigantic Backyard wrote: » Say for a given intervention area Siro had prepared a bid assuming X number of premises. That is now X - 150000 (assuming equal split of 300000). However they may still have to deploy similar amounts of fibre and man hours to reach the lesser number of premises. I don't expect the government subsidy to make up for the loss of these premises.
Will it even make economic sense for them to continue in the bidding process?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » Whether or not the Gov subsidy will be sufficient is hardly of concern to a bidder. All is required of them is to make an offer that is viable for them, based on the criteria laid out by the gov. It is up to the bidder to ensure their bid makes economic sense to them.
