Parliament is on lockdown after gunshots were heard outside the Palace of Westminster.
Notavirus.exe wrote: » The liberals want to prevent a Muslim from getting their feelings hurt more than they want to prevent a Muslim hurting/killing someone because Islam said to. I'm sorry, but the lives of the people of Europe are more important in my heart than the feelings of someone who subscribes themselves to a backwards, mediaeval ideology. Political correctness has killed innocent Europeans, liberalism is killing us.
Omackeral wrote: » Can't recall the last time off hand that people were slaughtered en masse in the name of Jesus Christ apart from maybe Brevik? Was he in the name of JC or against Islam? I'm sure you could link me to one or two instances probably but I'm sure your everyday blue collar guy/gal could list a slew of Islamic attacks from memory.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » In recent times, some examples would be Lebanon, Central African Republic, Uganda, India. There's more if you're interested in researching the subject.
Ronaldinho wrote: » To your first point, the "Christian West". I see those two words as co-incidental. The West subjugating North Africa was about imperialism, greed, power projection. Had nothing to do with religion in my view. And yes foreign policy regarding the Middle East has been a cluster muck for the past century or more. We can't change any of that now though. On your second point. In that hypothetical situation, no doubt - there would be insurgency. Would it be carried out strictly in the name of Christianity? I'm not so sure. I'd have said freedom more so. Certainly in 2017 I think more Europeans identify with the ideas of democracy and freedom than they do to any particular religion. What do you think the West should do to try to curb the frequency of these terrorist attacks?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » Who has done this?
Grayson wrote: » Has anyone at all ever done that? Or is it possible you're just delusional.
Grayson wrote: » I'm asking what these western values are. In the multiculturalism thread most people think that this has always been around. It hasn't. Even earlier in this thread people were arguing when it was said that we have it good right now. We are extremely lucky to live in a society like we do and it's only recently that this existed. If anything our liberal ideology that we have now (and that so many right wingers hate) isn't western. It just happens to exist in the west right now. There's no reason to suppose that it was always going to work out this way. People seem to think that there's a teleological aspect to it. It's almost like the US and their idea of manifest destiny. Still, even if you look at the world over the last 20 years, you'll see that western countries are responsible for far more deaths than the east is. We live in a relatively peaceful oasis but thanks to our actions there's wars and deaths around the world.
TallGlass wrote: » 40 Injured. Islam Related. Police know identify of attacker. Live on TV there. Just to update everyone. Also mentioned terror treat level not raise apparently either.
coco0981 wrote: » You really need to get yourself a history book and an old testament bible
homerjay2005 wrote: » the amount of people who seem to pass this off as "unavoidable" or "its the wests fault" or "how dare you blame them" is actually quite scary. this shouldnt be accepted and its completely avoidable but the world is too PC now to protect against it.
Notavirus.exe wrote: » Christians loving their enemies and turning the other cheek is just as violent as ISIS? Are you serious? Please explain. And don't refer to anything the Catholic church has done, because Catholicism is not Christianity.
Panrich wrote: » Deny the cnut a muslim burial. That is the best approach for these extremists.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » He won't mind if he's a Hindu.
Depp wrote: » hes not a hindu though is he?
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Well, let's go down that road. If the Christian West wasn't bombing Muslim countries, if the Christian West hadn't colonised much of North Africa, if the Ottomans hadn't invaded much of Europe, if the crusades... Ask yourself this: If Syrian, Egyptian, Pakistani, and Saudi forces had been invading and bombing various countries across Europe for decades, and levelling various churches and cathedrals, do you think that a few atrocities might be carried out in those countries in the name of Christianity? Huh?
FrancieBrady wrote: » In practical terms, assuming you have power, what is your solution?
jimmy blevins wrote: » Well eastern Europe was occupied by communism for six decades. I can't recall any Christian attacks on Moscow.
Notavirus.exe wrote: » Leave Islam for the desert until it gets a reform. Just like the Catholic church. Until then, **** Islam.
Widdershins wrote: » Questiong Islam is not judging muslims nor is it xenophobia and previous bigotry has nothing to do with it. The Irish-British situation was very different to the situation with Isil.
Mutant z wrote: » We need more people in the pc media to speak out against islamic atrocities and stop, making pathetic escuses and bs like islam is a relegion of peace, because its not, its a barbaric entity which belongs in the stone age.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Practically, how would you achieve that?
Notavirus.exe wrote: » The burden of proof is on the accuser. Don't make a claim and send me on a wild goose chase. If you know that Christianity is violent, you should be able to tell me how.
Notavirus.exe wrote: » Ban Islam. Think I'm hateful? Carry a cross into their country, see what happens. Their religion doesn't tolerate us, I don't tolerate their religion. I understand there are good Muslims, but Islam brings terrorism.
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