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Parliament is on lockdown after gunshots were heard outside the Palace of Westminster.

http://news.sky.com/story/gunshots-heard-outside-parliament-10810680

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FrancieBrady

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

She is being photoshoped now into other incidents, today of course was real picture. 100's of people walked by ,and were pushed by police to keep walking, she was just one of them. No one is hating on the rest who walked by just her.

Yeh, why didn't they target the guy strolling past here.
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Beechwoodspark

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Unless I'm missing the obvious, it appears to be one person. Nothing is known about who he is, his religion, his mental health, his nationality. Just one human being, so far. No 'they'.

Do you want to have a bet on the ideology involved? Give me good odds now

SimonTemplar

That nonsense about that women on the phone is absolutely vile. If I was in her position, I'd probably be looking for transport updates to see how I can get home. I certainly wouldn't be gawking at an injured person like the guy with his hands in his pockets, and that's probably exactly what she is doing.

I've walked over that bridge multiple times, and if this happened during rush hour with the whole city getting to/from work, the footpaths would have been packed and the casualty rate much higher. Only consolation I suppose.

Grayson

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I wonder if it's photoshopped.

Probably not. She was probably told by police to clear the area and was calling a loved one to let them know she was ok.

Professor Moriarty

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

They may well be criminals regardless, but do you deny that a certain ideology leads them to acts such as today's atrocity ?

Unless I'm missing the obvious, it appears to be one person. Nothing is known about who he is, his religion, his mental health, his nationality. Just one human being, so far. No 'they'.

Notavirus.exe

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jesus.

Mary.

And Joseph.

You surely understand that nationalism is an ideology?

Were you being serious or were you being facetious. I'm not sure if I'm falling for something in explaining the very very very obvious...

I never said it wasn't, nor did I even mention nationalism. What the hell are you talking about?

Beechwoodspark

listermint wrote: »

I think you are underestimating how these lads would be in a criminal gang if they weren't in a small band of mad unhinged brothers .

Makes no difference .Mixed up people find mixed up people . Humans are a funky race all together.

They may well be criminals regardless, but do you deny that a certain ideology leads them to acts such as today's atrocity ?

Jimmy Garlic

Jehovah's Witnesses up to their old tricks again.

[Deleted User]

Notavirus.exe wrote: »

Not to mention the fact that Irish is a nationality, Islam is an ideology, and a violent one at that.

Jesus.

Mary.

And Joseph.

You surely understand that nationalism is an ideology?

Were you being serious or were you being facetious. I'm not sure if I'm falling for something in explaining the very very very obvious...

BorneTobyWilde

SO the attacked is not the guy in the video? Seems he's in jail?

Call Me Jimmy

listermint wrote: »

It should be . Treat people like the criminals they are. We have law's for it enforce them.

But enough of this fear ****e. Jesus more chance of winning the lotto than some mixed up newly found criminal radical coming to get you.

Enforce the laws.

I'm talking about public discourse because you seem to be saying that ideology is irrelevant to the conduct of people. Your argument so far is saying that it doesn't matter what people say or believe, they only hurt people because they're 'mentally ill'?

Hank Scorpio

Grayson wrote: »

His point is that if Muslims are bad, and if as has been implied (and stated by some) their religion tells them to kill all non believers, have there been no terrorist attacks in the UK until recently. There have been generations of Muslims there and nothing.

BTW, the increase in immigration since the 90's has been from the EU.

I agree with his point that all Muslims aren't bad, but a certain of faction of them certainty are and that has become more and more apparent in recent years. Inevitably when you let flocks of people in, bad ones are going to slip through the cracks. The US has allies in Europe, so it's a moot point, if they attack us it's still seen as an attack on the West.

I don't look in disgust at the majority of people fleeing to Europe( ignoring integration and social problems ), I blame the people who created this whole mess trying to nation build/steal oil in foreign territory, Europe is paying the price for it and they aren't held to any sort of accountability.

Jayop

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

She is being photoshoped now into other incidents, today of course was real picture. 100's of people walked by ,and were pushed by police to keep walking, she was just one of them. No one is hating on the rest who walked by just her.

Not the rest, just the already racist scum.

Mental Mickey

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Gets worse
Now they are using her to add to other incidents

https://twitter.com/droventuncover/status/844652010960027648/photo/1

Hope someone tracks her down and hears her story. Can't believe the hatred of her on twitter.

Keyboard warriors ftw

Professor Moriarty

Jayop wrote: »

It's pathetic. I know a photo can be deceptive but to me she looks like the poor woman is shuck with her hand up to her face like that. How's she helping any less than the white people in the background? Maybe she's literally in the process of dialing an ambulance.

I hate people sometimes (not aimed at any of ye, I know you disagree with those sentiments too)

Hell is other people.

Jean-Paul Sartre

BorneTobyWilde

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I wonder if it's photoshopped.

She is being photoshoped now into other incidents, today of course was real picture. 100's of people walked by ,and were pushed by police to keep walking, she was just one of them. No one is hating on the rest who walked by just her.

Help!!!!

Grayson wrote: »

His point is that if Muslims are bad, and if as has been implied (and stated by some) their religion tells them to kill all non believers, have there been no terrorist attacks in the UK until recently. There have been generations of Muslims there and nothing.

BTW, the increase in immigration since the 90's has been from the EU.

Only because the police have caught them

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/oct/28/britain-foiled-terror-attacks-plots-police-counter-terrorism-security-services

listermint

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Gets worse
Now they are using her to add to other incidents

https://twitter.com/droventuncover/status/844652010960027648/photo/1

Hope someone tracks her down and hears her story. Can't believe the hatred of her on twitter.

This is the type of stuff bots used to win the us election. Sole goal to sow division

Notavirus.exe

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ppssst. It's all just noise to me. But keep going.

No one is "banning" Muslims. It is a temporary suspension of immigration from dangerous countries while they sort out the vetting process to make sure it works and to make it efficient, because it is extremely slow.

America have no reason to ban Irish people from America because of the possibility of being in the non-existent IRA. If Britain wants to ban us, fair enough. They have their own reason to.

The IRA never targeted America for obvious reasons, so complaining that Irish people aren't being banned from America as well as Muslims is stupid. Not to mention the fact that Irish is a nationality, Islam is an ideology, and a violent one at that.

Jayop

Grayson wrote: »

That's just nasty.

It's pathetic. I know a photo can be deceptive but to me she looks like the poor woman is shuck with her hand up to her face like that. How's she helping any less than the white people in the background? Maybe she's literally in the process of dialing an ambulance.

I hate people sometimes (not aimed at any of ye, I know you disagree with those sentiments too)

FAILSAFE 00

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

She'll be famous before tomorrow. People are idiots.
Hope we hear her voice, to be tarnished like this is unacceptable.

And the comments are pitiful .

Its terrible. Poor woman is probably in shock.

BorneTobyWilde

Grayson wrote: »

That's just nasty.

Gets worse
Now they are using her to add to other incidents

https://twitter.com/droventuncover/status/844652010960027648/photo/1

Hope someone tracks her down and hears her story. Can't believe the hatred of her on twitter.

listermint

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

So the ideology of right wing extremists is not to be opposed?

It should be . Treat people like the criminals they are. We have law's for it enforce them.

But enough of this fear ****e. Jesus more chance of winning the lotto than some mixed up newly found criminal radical coming to get you.

Enforce the laws.

Professor Moriarty

Grayson wrote: »

That's just nasty.

I wonder if it's photoshopped.

Jayop

RIP to the poor people killed and hopefully those injured recover.

Also hope that innocent people don't get attacked in retribution.

Call Me Jimmy

listermint wrote: »

Well let me see . Your a criminal you are outcasted no job. Into drugs and alcohol going nowhere . You'd normally be doing some low level crime or maybe assualt or maybe murder. You are just an all round bad dude. And someone gives you some brotherhood jazz and you think this is a good idea but again you are still the same bad criminal edgit.

Whether you act for yourself or your brothers who befriended you it's still down to your personality which came long before this fad religion

If this lad wasnt stabbing a copper in the name of Allah or whatever he'd be stabbing a copper to get away with selling **** on the streets.

People are mixed up lad. That's human nature.

This terror fear crap is spun up creating a stupid society predicated on fear itself.

Lap it up if you like i wont.

So the ideology of right wing extremists is not to be opposed?

Grayson

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/844639521002176512

She'll be famous before tomorrow. People are idiots.
Hope we hear her voice, to be tarnished like this is unacceptable.

And the comments are pitiful .

That's just nasty.

listermint

SnakePlissken wrote: »

3 innocent people have been murdered yet you're crying foul because another poster erroneously claimed your post was racist and then, rather admirably, apologised for same. You are not the victim here, your infantile whining is rather pathetic.

Lol post. Good one.

silverharp

seems to being celebrated on social media in certain quarters

Aldo Sterone‏ @AldoSterone111 4h4 hours ago
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I am watching al Jazeera live. You wouldn't believe the number of likes, "well done" and "allah akbar" #terrorism

listermint

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I think for some reason you are minimising the role the teachings of Islam have in this

I think you are underestimating how these lads would be in a criminal gang if they weren't in a small band of mad unhinged brothers .

Makes no difference .Mixed up people find mixed up people . Humans are a funky race all together.