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The problem of being a Redskins fan!

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

The problem of being a Redskins fan!

Baseball in a few weeks to frustrate the hell out of us too!

jack presley wrote: »

Baseball in a few weeks to frustrate the hell out of us too!

Yeah Mets and Nationals. Perhaps we actually really dislike ourselves and inflict pain through our sports interests!

Hypothetical ..

Would we trade Kirk to the 49ers for a raft of draft picks and take Tony Romo in free agency?

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Hypothetical ..

Would we trade Kirk to the 49ers for a raft of draft picks and take Tony Romo in free agency?

Tony Romo's great when he plays but he's made of glass unfortunately and we'd be back to the backup by week 3.

jack presley wrote: »

Tony Romo's great when he plays but he's made of glass unfortunately and we'd be back to the backup by week 3.

I don't really agree with that, it's the picture that people seem to remember but he hasn't been injured with muscle injuries or even knocks. They've been sort of freak accidents.

Apart from Romo though. Charles and Peterson are going to hit the open market if we want to win a Superbowl we have to sign one of them in my opinion especially now that we've franchised Kirk. We're going to need help in the receiving corp too if we let both Jackson and Garcon walk. Personally I don't think we should let Jackson go. Still a lot to offer.

HigginsJ

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I don't really agree with that, it's the picture that people seem to remember but he hasn't been injured with muscle injuries or even knocks. They've been sort of freak accidents.

To the same part of his body over & over & over & over. The back is brittle at the best of times, with what he has been through & the position he plays, I agree with the previous poster, you'll be on your reserve QB by week 3.

9 seasons he has played 15 or more games he really only missed time in three seasons.

Looks like the Romo deal may happen.

I'm not sure how I feel on it, I sort of feel he should finish as a Cowboy but it's strange to think of him playing for the Redskins. I think he could be a success with us.

Really I think we either lock Cousins in to a long term deal or we need to draft a QB in the middle of the first/second

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Looks like the Romo deal may happen.

I'm not sure how I feel on it, I sort of feel he should finish as a Cowboy but it's strange to think of him playing for the Redskins. I think he could be a success with us.

Really I think we either lock Cousins in to a long term deal or we need to draft a QB in the middle of the first/second

I can't see the Romo thing happening. It just doesn't make sense for SF or Washington. I know it could be all smokescreen stuff and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him but Jerry Jones has said it'll never happen either.

HigginsJ

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

9 seasons he has played 15 or more games he really only missed time in three seasons.

4 games in 2015, 1 game in 2016. He hasn't played the full 16 games since 2012. I can't remember the season but I remember him playing with what amounted to a flak jacket at one point after the 49ers inflicted some GBH on him.

In 2010 he had a broken collarbone, in 2013 he had back surgery, in 2014 he had 2 fractures in his back, in 2015 he had a broken collarbone, in 2016 he had a fracture to his L1 vertebra.

2 of the 3 seasons you mentioned are the last 2 years.

Also this is Tony "1 playoff win in his career" Romo, I don't know why I am trying to talk the Skins out of why this would be a good idea but it really wouldn't.

Things are never straightforward are they?

Looking very possible that we..

Lose our QB
Lose our GM
Lose our two best WR's
And create these holes while having a million holes to fill on defense too.

Worrying times to say the least.

I think Romo can play a year or two and we could get a decent deal for Cousins with 2 draft picks I would take it.

Thing is if we can move to 2nd in the draft then we could address some of the holes on defence.

We get back a very talented if still unproven WR in Doctson. I think Jackson wants to stick around so I can see him coming back.

Dont know what to think on the QB position to be honest. I have sort of thought from a long time back that Cousins/Romo draft picks sort of makes sense for us.

They will be mutually exclusive in my opinion, I think Dallas cut Romo and allow him to sign where he wants and Cousins traded to the 49ers for 2 maybe three picks.

I'd forget Romo tbh. Absolute pipe dream. He'll want to join a contender.

I'd be excited to an extent if we got a haul of picks for Cousins if McCloughan was still steering the ship but it seems he's gone off the map completely.

Morrison J wrote: »

I'd forget Romo tbh. Absolute pipe dream. He'll want to join a contender.

I'd be excited to an extent if we got a haul of picks for Cousins if McCloughan was still steering the ship but it seems he's gone off the map completely.

Hard to say we are not a contender, if we get picks and address the defence we can bring back most of the same Roster with the exception of probably Garcon and JAckson and maybe Cousins. I think we're strong this year, hopefully our defence improves.

Morrison J wrote: »

I'd be excited to an extent if we got a haul of picks for Cousins if McCloughan was still steering the ship but it seems he's gone off the map completely.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh as I know he has a good record in his previous jobs but I haven't been too impressed with McCloghlan so far. I know he's only been there two years but both drafts have only been so-so and his low end free agent signings haven't really worked out with the odd exception.

jack presley wrote: »

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh as I know he has a good record in his previous jobs but I haven't been too impressed with McCloghlan so far. I know he's only been there two years but both drafts have only been so-so and his low end free agent signings haven't really worked out with the odd exception.

I think Doctson could turn out to be a draft changer in a couple of years we could be talking about him as one of our best ever picks.

But overall I agree, I havent been wowed by Mc. Not sure there are many out there that are better and willing to take over the basket case that is the Redskins though.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Hard to say we are not a contender, if we get picks and address the defence we can bring back most of the same Roster with the exception of probably Garcon and JAckson and maybe Cousins. I think we're strong this year, hopefully our defence improves.

The organisation is in complete disarray at the minute though. Would make zero sense for Romo to go out of his way to join his teams biggest rival when the chances of him competing for the last few years are slim to none. There's nothing attractive about us at the minute. He'll go somewhere like the Chiefs who are pretty much just a QB away from being legit.

jack presley wrote: »

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh as I know he has a good record in his previous jobs but I haven't been too impressed with McCloghlan so far. I know he's only been there two years but both drafts have only been so-so and his low end free agent signings haven't really worked out with the odd exception.

Very harsh imo. His first year draft was excellent. Eight players from that draft have started an NFL game. Pretty impressive.

Not his fault the likes of Jarrett and Doctson have suffered injuries.

Draft last year doesn't look great at the moment but hard to judge after one year. Fuller is raw and can improve, Doctson and Sudfeld have hardly played a snap and Cravens looks a very good pick.

We're better than when he arrived which is all that matters really. Definitely heading in the right direction. Shame it's all likely to blow up again though.

We've resigned Vernon Davis, I like the move.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

We've resigned Vernon Davis, I like the move.

Yeah, he was good last year. Nice to have him back

jack presley wrote: »

Yeah, he was good last year. Nice to have him back

Also him being from the area and I think he cares on the field which shows in his play. Good for him and us I think.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

We've resigned Vernon Davis, I like the move.

And with every bit of good news, there's corresponding bad news. Garcon looks like he's signing with SF for $16m. (hooking up with Cousins again...????)

16m is an awful overpay for Garcon and I'm a big fan of him.

Fan of Garcon but $16million a year is too much, I read $10m a year over 3 years but still alot.

I liked Garcon alot though tough as teak.

Do we want Romo? Ship Cousins two first round picks address DE with the first? Wait, what if we shipped Cousins to the Browns? Now we get Myles Garrett with the first pick.

I think the overall first round pick and maybe a sweetener? Josh Gordon? where we swap first's with them?

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Do we want Romo? Ship Cousins two first round picks address DE with the first? Wait, what if we shipped Cousins to the Browns? Now we get Myles Garrett with the first pick.

I think the overall first round pick and maybe a sweetener? Josh Gordon? where we swap first's with them?

No leverage though. No team is going to give away high draft picks to get a guy who will be available as a free agent next season. Well no sensible team anyway although I see you mentioned the Browns!

jack presley wrote: »

No leverage though. No team is going to give away high draft picks to get a guy who will be available as a free agent next season. Well no sensible team anyway although I see you mentioned the Browns!

I dont know about that really there is alot to like about trying to get Cousins this year for those teams.

Firstly they dont have to try to compete with teams in an open market. He's in a vacuum now and only a couple of teams can realistically trade for him. Giving up a first for a top 12 qb isnt alot.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I dont know about that really there is alot to like about trying to get Cousins this year for those teams.

Firstly they dont have to try to compete with teams in an open market. He's in a vacuum now and only a couple of teams can realistically trade for him. Giving up a first for a top 12 qb isnt alot.

Fair point.