seenitall wrote: » The Irish are a placid lot. A constant, low-level, all social strata-encompassing grumble, is the safety valve that saves ye from the bother of protest marches or the explosiveness of riots. And beer. Ah the beer...
moneymad wrote: » We don't have the backbone and we never stick together to help one another. But when we do ,occupy nama happens.
sbsquarepants wrote: » This is like something some handle bar mustache sporting fruit cake in assless leather chaps would tell the triage nurse at 3am. How exactly do you accidently shove a police baton up someones arse. It's a fúcking ridiculous explanation!
moneymad wrote: » It's the "I'm all right jack" attitude.
Butters1979 wrote: » Except when it come to water charges. Apparently that's our limit. Not getting a rare resource for free. Entitlement triggered.
Your Face wrote: » One was charged with rape.
Flint Fredstone wrote: » Be interesting to see a Venn diagram of A: The people who were disgusted by any trouble at water protests and meter installations. B: The people who think these riots are understandable or even condone them.
Grayson wrote: » When did that happen? I'm looking now but I can't see anything. From what I can tell there was an investigation but no-one was charged.
Grayson wrote: » Understanding why the riots happen and condoning them are two completly different things. I understand why there's protests. I understand why there's riots. I especially understand why rioters attack police (The protests are after all because of police brutality). I think they are natural outcomes. It doesn't mean I condone violence or destruction.
Banana Republican wrote: » It's not and never has been free.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » But its not, because the police have decided not to charge their member be cause it was "an accident" sic.
moneymad wrote: » We don't have the backbone and we never stick together to help one another.
Banana Republican wrote: » "Keep the head down lad, don't cause any bother". It should be written on the tricolour.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Well based on the reports it did not happen the way some perceive it have and don't you know this will be used by the far right to portray all these people as overly sensitive when many have genuine grievances against the gvt.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Agreed if they did what they are being accused of. Taking your action on the entire police force for the actions of one or a number of officers is taking the situation to extreme. Enter politics but to engage in wanton violence automatically disqualifies you. What did the business owners and fellow French citizens do to have to experience this rioters behaviour.
KingBrian2 wrote: » The rioters now differing news outlets will present different facts but from what i gathered the rioters have been torching cars, smashing windows and engaging in running battles with the police not to mention the looting all the hallmarks of either purposeful chaos to make a point or plain exploiting the resentment out their and trying to destabilize the French Republic.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Your in favour of the rioting. I don't know how any one can be in favour of people rioting. The situation is eerily similar to the west bank and now we have posters MightyMandarin comparing Trump & Geert Wilders to ISIS who have publicly beheaded people and practice forced marriages. The solution would be to shut down the Front National and prescribe it a terrorist organisation.
B_Wayne wrote: » Can you clarify how the attack by the police officer is being misrepresented? Is there a justified scenario for raping a person with a baton? Various news outlets be they online, radio or the papers usually tabloid will have their own slant on what is going on. Institutional racism by the French police isn't a new phenomena and goes far further back than just this event. No it's 'eerily familiar' to events such as Rodney King, you're representing as it as Islamic terrorism of some kind. The simple fact is that the rioting is as a result of growing tensions and resentment towards the police. The instability has been created by the system. It's uncomfortable and horrifying at times. However it's also horrifying that people would try to justify racist attacks and profiling by law enforcement.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Various news outlets be they online, radio or the papers usually tabloid will have their own slant on what is going on. Also you keep mentioning the Rodney King situation but this is not the same. Their is a refugee crisis in Europe and France is the first port of call that and the the recent attacks in Paris and Nice is why their is a state of emergency. ISIS have publicly stated they aim to infiltrate European society and causing these tensions within France is precisely what they want to do. The French forces are doing their best keeping the people safe but obviously with revolts in the suburbs some parts of the country have become lawless.
B_Wayne wrote: » You paint this as a refugee issue, the issue is institutional racism which you're conveniently ignoring.
Candie wrote: » It's hard to put a slant on a lad being raped by a truncheon wielded by a police officer. It's quite cut and dried, it's not something he faked. The French forces will (mostly) be trying to keep people safe, but if they let their own off the hook for brutal sexual assaults it can hardly be a surprise to many that the population is outraged. If you want to counteract lawlessness, then the first thing you should do is expect lawful conduct from agents of the law, not rape.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Now your the one justifying violence. A incident of outrage in one part of the country and the entire country erupts into violence. This is not related to the police attack. This is frustration that is not being addressed by the political leadership within France. Unemployment is high in France and the arriving migrants are adding to the rise in extremism. Their is a direct link between Unemployment and extremism i am convinced of.
Candie wrote: » No, it's an explosion of outrage after decades of institutional racism and marginalisation. I did not justify any kind of violence, so don't put words in my mouth. Outrage is understandable, violence and destruction carried out by a minority, is not.
MadYaker wrote: » There are riots in Paris once a year, have been for decades. I like how OP is trying to turn this into a refugee issue though, if you're familiar with his posts you'll recognise a definite trend :pac: Trying to point out the flaws in his "logic" is a waste of time.
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