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STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)

paddy147

The amount of threads getting posted each day about stoves is unreal and taking away from other plumbing issues.

Can I suggest to the members and also the mods a dedicated "sticky" thread about stoves and nothing else.

Thanks.:)

Hi Folks. This sticky has been suggested by a regular poster and contributed to quite well. It seems to have generated a lot of interest. While advertising is not permitted under forum charter a balanced view of multiple suppliers is allowed. The rule of thumb is if you are unsure just ask. But keeping it simple and discussing the techanical details of multiple suppliers will be safe. Keep pricing out of the thread and only reply if requested to by PM -Personal message. An instant permant ban will result for breach of charter on advertising.

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currants

I never heard of that before, now I have fireplace envy. I went for marble in the end but would have actually preferred one like yours. Too late now, I've only one fireplace in this house as well.

Lottie2016

We need to make a decision fairly lively on a double-sided insert stove without boiler. We'd need output of 14kw. Looking at stovax duplex studio 2 , kratki zzuzia and the boru900i and wonder what's your opinion of them.
Also in the Limerick area could you recommend someone who does fireplaces please?

Forge83

Lottie2016 wrote: »

We need to make a decision fairly lively on a double-sided insert stove without boiler. We'd need output of 14kw. Looking at stovax duplex studio 2 , kratki zzuzia and the boru900i and wonder what's your opinion of them.
Also in the Limerick area could you recommend someone who does fireplaces please?

Has to be the Stovax, no comparison in build quality and finish to the other two.
Looks the best too imo. But of course the price reflects that.
Elm Fireplaces on Ballysimon road have the best Fireplace showroom in the country. Livingstone fireplaces on dock road also very good.

Pique

Anyone know how to clean an enamelled stove that hasn't had a good clean in years? There is a whitish bloom on it and I don't want to do any damage.

Forge83

Pique wrote: »

Anyone know how to clean an enamelled stove that hasn't had a good clean in years? There is a whitish bloom on it and I don't want to do any damage.

Soapy water is the only thing recommended really.
WD 40 is great but not recommended by all manufacturers. You would need to test it on a hidden Enamel area to make sure there is no reaction.

Lottie2016

Thanks Forge for your reply!

leck

Any opinions on the Blacksmith Artisan? http://www.blacksmithstoves.ie/blacksmith-stoves-product-range/the-artisan.html

Pique

Could someone tell me the difference between the Henley Achill and Henley Kinsale inset boiler stoves please? The Kinsale is a couple of hundred cheaper and has a right sided opening door.
Same output, looks etc. What's the catch?
Are Henley inset stoves good? What about Precision, Alpha or Graphite? I've never heard of them so I'm wary.

cocoman

leck wrote: »

Any opinions on the Blacksmith Artisan? http://www.blacksmithstoves.ie/blacksmith-stoves-product-range/the-artisan.html

I'm not familiar with this stove but I have something similar. It's a bilberry insert. It fitted into the existing fireplace without breaking out the fireback. It's only 3.7kw but does the job. Takes a bit longer to warm up than the freestanding stanley oisin I have in another room.
Any push in type insert won't take a huge amount of fuel in one go but I like the bilberry as it has a fairly big glass front. It needs to be fitted against a flat surface to ensure a tight seal. Think it was about €400.

leck

That looks very similar - Bilberry 3.5kW. How big is the room? And where do you have a vent in the room?

The Blacksmith Artisan claims to be 5kW, which I would probably need for a room size 12 x 15 x 8. The stove is a bit deeper than the Bilberry - 290 vs 200, but think it would fit. Only thing is currently there's a granite slab at the back of the fireplace. That would probably have to be removed or would crack with heat.

leck

Robbie.G

https://www.facebook.com/clarecountycouncil/posts/1859791427626395
This is for those that think it's a Diy job to fit stoves

doniepony

Hi folks - need some advice please

I have installed a Yale 8KW Henley stove recently in a stove chamber (new build) and my wife really wants to put an natural oak beam over this stove. I have put a vermiculite board in the head of the chamber. I have cladded the full chamber with stone and have plenty of room around the stove. I installed an 8" limestone surround around the stove. From the head of the stove to the top of the surround where the beam would sit is about 22". Would this be enough of a distance for this combustible beam. I know we can get fake beams but have already ordered it. Looked in building regs and cannot find the distance needed between top of stove to natural beam.

Any advice appreciated please

Donal

Forge83

Hi,
Building regs won't give a distance to combustibles as every stove is different.
Contact the manufacturer for overhead distance to combustibles for this stove.
This will tell you whether you can or cannot have a real timber mantle beam.
My guess is it will be somewhere from 600mm to 900mm overhead.

deniseb1000

Hello, I am hoping someone can give me some advise on choosing wood burning cassette stove to heat the sitting room which is 11ft wide * 17 ft * 8ft high. The heat output calculator says I need 4kw but there isn't very much at all in that category and even less in the style I like. I really like the Kratki Jas 7kw and the Henley Athens 500 styles. I have had a couple of companies out and they are giving me conflicting advise. One guy told me I would be fine with a 7kw stove in the room ( he said I could go up to 8kw if I wanted!) and just open the door but the other guy told me if I go more than 5kw I will crack my ceiling and warp my doors with the heat! I don't want to make a mistake on this as it is a lot of money so if anyone has any experience on these stoves or have other recommendations I really would appreciate the advice.

Forge83

A 5/6kw stove will be plenty for that size room.
However the sales person may be scare mongoring suggesting it cracking your ceiling etc if bigger.
A bigger stove would also cost more and the installation would likely cost more also however.
Models I would suggest as follows based on you wanting a cassette style. All as good as each other really.
Heat Design Vitae 6kw
Henley Athens 400 6kw
Heritage Clare 6kw
Hota Glass 6kw

Wearb

My son asked me if I knew of a good dry stove with glass at front and one side. I didn't even know such a thing existed. Any suggestions?

Forge83

A corner stove I'd imagine?
Like this -
https://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/ughlovoi_kamin_nordflam_torres_vray_corona

Wearb

Forge83 wrote: »

A corner stove I'd imagine?
Like this -
https://3dsky.org/3dmodels/show/ughlovoi_kamin_nordflam_torres_vray_corona

Thanks Forge. Never saw one before. That one looks great. Do you know if they give trouble keeping glass clear? There is a lot of it there.

Any suggestions for a make and places to shop?

Forge83

To be honest I don't know. They would be strictly dried wood only I'd imagine so shouldn't stain glass too much.
Spartherm would be the market leaders in this type of model but very expensive. I assume a new build house as they are a big job to install.
I'm sure there are others brands too, I will check later on.

What county you based in?

Wearb

Forge83 wrote: »

To be honest I don't know. They would be strictly dried wood only I'd imagine so shouldn't stain glass too much.
Spartherm would be the market leaders in this type of model but very expensive. I assume a new build house as they are a big job to install.
I'm sure there are others brands too, I will check later on.

What county you based in?

Yes, a new build. Wexford/Carlow, though they have been to Dublin a few times recently looking at baths.
Thanks

deniseb1000

Thank you very much Forge83 for taking the time to respond - it's really appreciated! I will check out those stoves today ðŸ‘

Forge83

Wearb wrote: »

Yes, a new build. Wexford/Carlow, though they have been to Dublin a few times recently looking at baths.
Thanks

As I said Spartherm would be considered No 1. Very expensive though.(Prob around 4/5k)
Dik Geurts would be as good. Priced more mid range(Still around 3k I'd imagine) Try Stove store Flame in Carlow for both of these.
Best Value would be Kratki. Try Stone and Stoves Rathcoole Dublin for these.(Less than 2k).

Wearb

Forge83 wrote: »

As I said Spartherm would be considered No 1. Very expensive though.(Prob around 4/5k)
Dik Geurts would be as good. Priced more mid range(Still around 3k I'd imagine) Try Stove store Flame in Carlow for both of these.
Best Value would be Kratki. Try Stone and Stoves Rathcoole Dublin for these.(Less than 2k).

Lots of good info there. I will pass it on. Thanks.

deniseb1000

Hello Forge83, with your advice we looked at stoves today and I've settled on the Henley Athens. Would you know if €1150 sounds reasonable to install it? It will be installed by a certified HETAS installer, with the full chimney liners etc. Thanks again!

Forge83

€1500 for chimney liner, vermiculite, chimney cap, connection pipe and installation? Single storey or two storey house?

deniseb1000

Forge83 wrote: »

€1500 for chimney liner, vermiculite, chimney cap, connection pipe and installation? Single storey or two storey house?

Hi, yes €1150 for all of those in a two storey house. 2 carbon monoxide alarms as well

Just to install - the stove is separate

Forge83

Yes I assumed stove was separate.
Great price to be honest,you won't get much better than that anywhere.
March to July are the best times to buy and install a stove as it's quiet so shops and fitters keep their prices lower.

deniseb1000

Forge83 wrote: »

Yes I assumed stove was separate.
Great price to be honest,you won't get much better than that anywhere.
March to July are the best times to buy and install a stove as it's quiet so shops and fitters keep their prices lower.

Ah great, thanks very much for that - I'm delighted now - the search is over! Thanks so much for your help - I really appreciate it.

funkey_monkey

Hi,
Anyone ever install an oil stove into their house and if so what brand did they go for?
I know you can get oil stoves originally made for boats which can be used in houses. I'm making the assumption that if they work well with a short chimney in a boat then they would also work with a house chiney - single storey.