KingBrian2 wrote: » I love the bash the Trump supporter as though you can wrap Trumpites into a nice little package. People voted for Trump for a lot of simple reasons. Gvt was performing dreadfully and they were looking for effective Gvt in this time of recession & international terrorism. Constantly referencing the Trump people as neo fascists.
Jan_de_Bakker wrote: » Who's the Trump supporter ? Anyway, point is when actors are inciting violence - it's an issue
listermint wrote: » Looking for effective government when there hasn't been a terrorist attack in years especially a foreign grown one oh and handing governance to a reality show host.... I mean if effective governance is the hook anyone wants to put their coat on....
KingBrian2 wrote: » What are you talking about Americans are still reeling from last years twin terrorist attacks and we have plenty of Americans still without a job or able to earn an income.
listermint wrote: » What Americans reeling from exactly. I mean I travel to and from for business and have offices all over the US. But I'm interested in this reeling please elaborate. What's the unemployment rate again ?Less then Ireland's you say? Get any of this off Facebook?Perhaps
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Steve. Bannon. Unelected. Ultra Right.
KingBrian2 wrote: Unemployment rate is low however the statisticians dispute the true employment figure. Also crucially some areas of the country are starved of cash. Investment poor causing huge problems for the future. The economic troubles of America are very bad.
KingBrian2 wrote: » Unemployment rate is low however the statisticians dispute the true employment figure. Also crucially some areas of the country are starved of cash. Investment poor causing huge problems for the future. The economic troubles of America are very bad.
KingBrian2 wrote: A political appointee. Obama picked Bush type appointees when he was in office.
listermint wrote: » Really? Like em everywhere else.. people have to migrate to more populous areas look at Ireland. You haven't addressed my terrorist question which was the butt of your response. What are people 'reeling' from. And what statisticians? Trump has hounded the figures for 2 years and only this week claiming the figures as his own despite them being the same Interesting... Can you give your thoughts on both points
KingBrian2 wrote: » https://qz.com/666311/why-americas-impressive-5-unemployment-rate-still-feels-like-a-lie/ You add to that the spread of anti Muslim sentiment in the media and you get this environment of hate all perfectly predictability with so badly paid jobs.
listermint wrote: » Brian, First answer the question about reeling from terrorism which you have avoided twice despite you bringing it up. Secondly the attack on minimum wage came from the same individuals funding trump.the same individuals funding his attack on Dodd Frank . Wall Street. You think big business wants to pay minimum wage . This is the conundrum which you fail to comprehend when the unfathomable support for trump. Please answer both questions as they have been posed.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Interesting you quote an article by Sarah Kendzior. Here's more of her articles. To say that she doesn't like Trump or his cronies would be a gross understatement.
KingBrian2 wrote: » It does not matter as she stated long time before Trump got elected that the economic picture was not rosy. Democrats deviated from their mission and suffered at the voting booth. You can't treat your electorate like that.
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KingBrian2 wrote: » I have already answered these questions Americans are fed up with the acts of terrorism that have taken place in America claimed by ISIS as reported by the mainstream media. Not some tabloid publication. Multiple incidents of Islamic terrorism taking place in America and as usual the American working classes who have very little income suffer the most.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Indeed. But seeing as you see her as an authoritative source, have a read of her articles on Trump's "sh1tshow".
KingBrian2 wrote: » I share some the frustrations about Trump but really the Democrats are really divided and Trump would need to have an opposition that can reign him in. He feels powerful, do no wrong answerable to nobody. Take the whole Bannon appointee a forceful Congress could remove him from that position. I see what is going on in Congress or rather silence as acceptance. The public are not as concerned about Bannon being there as the mainstream media are and why would they virtually everyone in the mainstream media bar Fox News is a liberal and Bannon is as conservative as they come. They are going to target him to beat the band. All those horrible words used to describe him.
listermint wrote: » No Brian you have not answered. You said Americans are reeling from 2 acts of terrorism last year. Please detail these 2 acts or terrorism they are reeling from. Or where you not counting on someone frequenting the us and speaking with colleagues on a daily basis asking questions about your so called facts. Details please brian
KingBrian2 wrote: » The Orlando attack. An Afghan claimed allegiance to ISIS killed innocent people on a night out. The attack in Ohio also took place linked to ISIS so Americans have faced terrorism first hand. I am not making false or misleading statements about these attacks. Google the attacks and you will see the details.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Yes, bar McCain and a few others. the real culprits are the Republicans who are busily looking the other way. Unprincipled cowards.
Suryavarman wrote: » I don't think you can tell somebody they don't understand liberalism and then try to back up your argument by referring to a bunch of liberal thinkers that are dead over 150 years. A lot has changed since Adam Smith wrote Wealth of Nations, America abolished slavery, Karl Marx wrote Das Kapital and even since Keynes wrote the General Theory. Since then science and political philosophy have advanced a great deal and the terms we use when discussing those matters have evolved. Terms we use now don't mean what they used to mean 150 years ago. Your ability to talk about classical liberals from the 19th century or referring to Keynes as if he was still relevant are impressive but they also give the impression that you're stuck in the past and not really in the position to give any great insight into modern issues.
listermint wrote: » Spot on. I envisage this changing fairly soon it will start with a trickle then a flood.
listermint wrote: » You are making false and misleading statements for what end?I think we all know. No America is not reeling from a nightclub shooting or something in Ohio. Why because I've been in Ohio frequently there is no reeling just normal life. Incredibly enough neither of these things really impact most life's over there i guess you know that already unless getting your queues from Facebook from people who don't live there.
Bebopclown wrote: » This fear has been building in me for awhile but seeing all these violent protests recently has heightened my fears. It seems that if you are in any way different, if you like something that's a little abnormal (like 18 certed horror films) these liberals want you dead! They will scream, shout and threaten you until you conform and be like them. Right now, it seems that if you are different, maybe a little bit odd, it's now time to lock yourself up and never step outside. I don't like posting online anymore due to fear of liberal attacks and labelling. My therapist says I need to get out more, talk to people and let them get to know the real me but I'm scared the real me will get me killed at the hands of these liberals. My therapist says my oddness makes me unique but I think it makes me a target of liberal hate. It feels like I need to conform, I need to become something else because being me is a horrible thing. I need to stay so deep in the closet because if I come out then that will be another thing that makes me different.
