Accusations of sexual assault on "reality" tv show, double standards?

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

By attempting to appear not bothered by the double standards on show and acting like a woman randomly rubbing her naked self up against is nothing yes you are.

Say what? I've read that several times and I'm not closer to understanding what you're getting at.

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

It's worrying that anyone would be OK with Chloe's behavior.

I hope the worry that someone having a differing opinion to you doesn't cause you too much distress.

Dr Crayfish

It's not a double standard really. Men can be sexually threatening to women, not really the other way around as generally men are the much stronger sex. Men are capable of raping women etc.
So I may not like it if some aul one rubbed her arse all over me, I may be disgusted, but I'd quickly move on and it'd hardly traumatise me.
The other way around is just much, much worse, in my opinion.

"Naked Essex Tart Rubs Her Arse Against Half Of Jedward!! 1nt3rn3tz Outraged!!" :pac::pac::pac:

[Deleted User]

That horrible woman definitely overstepped the line between messing and assault, the recipients weren't at all happy and she should at least have been removed for inappropriate behaviour. Ugh.

On another note, it's really creepy for two grown men to be called an amalgamated name. I know it's their 'thing' etc, but they're two individuals, not two knobs on the same cane.

Candie wrote: »

...they're two individuals, not two knobs on the same cane.

The two ends of a mule's tool sprang to my mind. :pac:

kfallon

Candie wrote: »

not two knobs on the same cane.

Oh they're 2 knobs alright..... :pac:

daheff

RobertKK wrote: »

If a man says he is a feminist, it doesn't mean he wants women to have more rights than men, he wants women to have the same rights.

It has to be a level playing field and no one should be sexually intimidated.

Feminists want women to have at least the same rights as men. They are not interested in men having the same rights as women. They are advocates for women only.

fully agree with the last point you make Robert -nobody should have to put up with sexual initimidation/harassment/call it what you want.

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

It's not a double standard really. Men can be sexually threatening to women, not really the other way around as generally men are the much stronger sex. Men are capable of raping women etc.
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Women are capable of raping men too..http://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/girl-17-charged-with-raping-19yearold-man-at-knifepoint-35380700.html

bucketybuck

jimgoose wrote: »

"Naked Essex Tart Rubs Her Arse Against Half Of Jedward!! 1nt3rn3tz Outraged!!" :pac::pac::pac:

"Naked man grabs womans breast! One man arrested."

kunst nugget wrote: »

I wouldn't have an issue if the roles were reversed. If a penis or vagina was brought into the mix I would…

At the angle she is rubbing her ass at, that in practical terms IS her vagina.

[Deleted User]

Please people, we're talking pudenda/vulva, not vagina.

Unless she turned herself inside out, which would be a completely different discussion.

professore wrote: »

At the angle she is rubbing her ass at, that in practical terms IS her vagina.

If she was a sheep…

Candie wrote: »

Please people, we're talking pudenda/vulva, not vagina.

Unless she turned herself inside out, which would be a completely different discussion.

Can I use fanny instead? Covers all bases… especially if we use it for its American meaning as well.

PucaMama wrote: »

Feminists are for women. They are interested in women's rights. Men have their own groups. Direct your anger to those because they are just as silent as feminists on this.

I think men's rights groups are more interested in serious disadvantages that men have compared to women, such as the heavily family rights courts, longer sentences for men for the same crimes, the automatic assumption of guilt if accused of domestic abuse or rape, the amount of suicides and the under - representation of men at third level etc than to be even bothered by something like this.

Not saying that women don't have disadvantages with respect to men, but most of these have been addressed, and modern feminism is largely hysteria.

Candie wrote: »

Please people, we're talking pudenda/vulva, not vagina.

Unless she turned herself inside out, which would be a completely different discussion.

Yeah you're right ... the original guy said vagina.

kunst nugget wrote: »

Can I use fanny instead? Covers all bases… especially if we use it for its American meaning as well.

Fanny is too open to misinterpretation

kunst nugget wrote: »

Can I use fanny instead? Covers all bases… especially if we use it for its American meaning as well.

I remember being deeply shocked as a youngfella in the 1980s when some fella on an American TV show let a roar out of him to the daughter, "Martha! Get your skinny little fanny in here, pronto!!" :pac::pac::pac:

Dr Crayfish

Jedward are creepy alright at this stage. Serious question - are they mentally retarded?

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Jedward are creepy alright at this stage. Serious question - are they mentally retarded?

No but let's pretend they are so it makes the incident 100 times worse.

'SHOCK AS GEORDIE WOMAN RUBS ASS ON DISABLED TWIN!!!'

kunst nugget wrote: »

No but let's pretend they are so it makes the incident 100 times worse.

'SHOCK AS GEORDIE WOMAN RUBS ASS ON DISABLED TWIN!!!'

Oh, she's from Newcastle is she? That's just their way of being friendly, why-aye mon! :pac:

LionelNashe

A man generally wouldn't mind, or wouldn't mind as much, when a woman rubs her naked arse against him, as when the situation is reversed. That's why there's (quite rightly) a double standard.

IvySlayer

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Jedward are creepy alright at this stage. Serious question - are they mentally retarded?

Have they ever rubbed their naked body against someone who was clearly uncomfortable with it?

It is double standards. The Ellen show is shocking for it. For some reason the men end up being stripped. Bieber was on it and they showed his naked picture and he was uncomfortable about it.

If a male host started showing leaked pictures of woman while she was on there would be uproar

LionelNashe wrote: »

A man generally wouldn't mind, or wouldn't mind as much, when a woman rubs her naked arse against him, as when the situation is reversed. That's why there's (quite rightly) a double standard.

I'd mind but I'd tell her to fúck off. I won't be worrying too much about whether I'd considered myself a victim of sexual harassment.

LionelNashe wrote: »

A man generally wouldn't mind, or wouldn't mind as much, when a woman rubs her naked arse against him, as when the situation is reversed. That's why there's (quite rightly) a double standard.

It would depend a lot on the woman doing the rubbing. Wouldn't be crazy about it myself.

Reverse the genders and you could say the same.

DrPhilG

Sexual? No.

Assault? No

Appropriate? No

Would the reaction and response have been the same if the genders were reversed? No.

py2006

Most lads don't (can't) care about this kinda stuff. It is the double standard that sets the alarm bells ringing and sends the feminists the quiet house!

retro:electro

eviltwin wrote: »

Sorry but what has this got to do with feminists? Woman does something to a man and the tv company don't deal with it. The only person to blame here is the woman involved and whoever behind the scenes didn't act accordingly. As a woman who identifies as feminist I think any kind of unwanted sexual contact is unacceptable no matter which gender is involved.

Because how can you want equality when men are punished for this and women aren't. If you actually wanted equality you'd be more vocal about issues like this. Or is it just selective equality you want? Equality only when it advances woman and only when it demotes men?