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Eir rural FTTH thread

rob808

I made this thread for people on eir rural blue line FTTH please keep here and don't post in Eircom FTTH 66 towns 1 Gb thread about rural FTTH rollout.

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Gonzo

Knasher wrote: »

Just wondering if there is anybody who was a small distance from the blue lines, and if the know if the lines are canonical? I'm about 150 meters from where the line turns down a small cul de sac and ends down there, so it doesn't pass directly outside my house.

My house isn't near a first 10000 town, but Eir have been cutting back ditches recently. I don't know if I'm reading too much into that. Anyway I'd be gutted if it turned out I just missed the fiber rollout by such a small distance. Is there anyway to find out, and if so to offer to dig a ditch ourselves to try and influence their decision?

Unfortunately I doubt you'll be able to get it. Digging a ditch to convince Open Eir will not work. In our area all the lines are wired for fiber along blue lines and stop within 100 meters of the end of a blue line, with the last splice box serving the end of the line.

There are plenty of unfortunate cases such as yours in most areas. The road behind me has a 2km ribbon development, the first 1.6km of it is inside the Dunshaughlin exchange area and the blue line ends just before the Ratoath exchange area starts. The final 400 meter section of the ribbon development is in the ratoath exchange area and those houses (about 9 or 10) are not on a blue line. They could easily have been served by extending the blue line just a little extra but sadly this is not in the plan.

daraghwal

Knasher wrote: »

Just wondering if there is anybody who was a small distance from the blue lines, and if the know if the lines are canonical? I'm about 150 meters from where the line turns down a small cul de sac and ends down there, so it doesn't pass directly outside my house.

My house isn't near a first 10000 town, but Eir have been cutting back ditches recently. I don't know if I'm reading too much into that. Anyway I'd be gutted if it turned out I just missed the fiber rollout by such a small distance. Is there anyway to find out, and if so to offer to dig a ditch ourselves to try and influence their decision?

You might not want to read too much into that. If an exchange is not FTTC enabled it might be just to bring fibre to another cabinet or roll fibre. Going on other posts the blue lines seem very specific and unfortunately digging a ditch yourself will have no influence on them. They don't do anything for customers specifically as it's the wholesale arm of eir that are doing the rollout.

Knasher

Just wondering if there is anybody who was a small distance from the blue lines, and if the know if the lines are canonical? I'm about 150 meters from where the line turns down a small cul de sac and ends down there, so it doesn't pass directly outside my house.

My house isn't near a first 10000 town, but Eir have been cutting back ditches recently. I don't know if I'm reading too much into that. Anyway I'd be gutted if it turned out I just missed the fiber rollout by such a small distance. Is there anyway to find out, and if so to offer to dig a ditch ourselves to try and influence their decision?

ED E

ccazza wrote: »

I was able to order Eir Fibre on 22nd December. I've heard nothing from Eir since. Reading here I see my exchange is only going live on 11th January. Anyone any idea how long it takes to install after the exchange goes live for FTTH.

Its a regulatory hold. They can start on the 11th but it'll entirely depend on kns schedules. Keep an eye on your phone for a call to schedule a slot.

ccazza

I was able to order Eir Fibre on 22nd December. I've heard nothing from Eir since. Reading here I see my exchange is only going live on 11th January. Anyone any idea how long it takes to install after the exchange goes live for FTTH.

Gonzo

MBSnr wrote: »

That Digiweb checker link is incorrect for my house - gives max 6Mb. Still thinks I'm on ADSL1
Pure Telecom gives max 3Mb. WTF...?
Eir's checker gives me 12Mb.
I actually get 10Mb on ADSL2+

http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/

being saying the same thing for me for years:

DSL Enabled: Yes - 12 MB

NGB Enabled: Yes - 12 MB

Fibre Enabled: No

LLU Enabled: No

MBSnr

Gonzo wrote: »

There was a digiweb link going around with allowed people to check what sort of DSL or Fiber is available to them, I can't find it tho, maybe that link might show Shyboy something.

That Digiweb checker link is incorrect for my house - gives max 6Mb. Still thinks I'm on ADSL1
Pure Telecom gives max 3Mb. WTF...?
Eir's checker gives me 12Mb.
I actually get 10Mb on ADSL2+

http://business.digiweb.ie/linechecker/

garroff

5 months after cutting timber and replacing poles contractor was outside my house this morning digging and running hydrodare piping up poles that are terminating u.g cables.
They were gone in a few hours

tsue921i8wljb3

Gonzo wrote: »

There was a digiweb link going around with allowed people to check what sort of DSL or Fiber is available to them, I can't find it tho, maybe that link might show Shyboy something.

I believe Pure are the only reseller of Openeir FTTH at the moment which is why I suggested contacting them.

Gonzo

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Shyboy it might be useful to enquire with Pure Telecom to see if your house is covered by them. They are resellers of Openeir's. You wouldn't necessarily have to order from them but it would be interesting to see if Openeir have released a database to other operators.

There was a digiweb link going around with allowed people to check what sort of DSL or Fiber is available to them, I can't find it tho, maybe that link might show Shyboy something.

tsue921i8wljb3

Shyboy it might be useful to enquire with Pure Telecom to see if your house is covered by them. They are resellers of Openeir's. You wouldn't necessarily have to order from them but it would be interesting to see if Openeir have released a database to other operators.

Gonzo

I just checked all the numbers for my neighbours again and since I last checked one more neighbours phone number has gone the same as mine, no longer showing the message or eircode checker.

OpenEir were back checking some splice box's earlier, I reckon the area isn't signed off just yet.

Shyboy

Gonzo wrote: »

This is a really worrying development alright. There is already a database error on my line as I'm not getting the 'fiber might be available message' and no eircode checker. I wasn't too concerned about it until I read about these problems here yesterday.

FTTH is supposed to work for everyone who has it passing their house. If I end up with this problem I will not leave them alone till it's working.

The more I think about it, I think that there is a serious problem with their database. Since before Christmas, I was getting the Eir message "fibre may be available" and when I enter my Eir code, it was and still is available but if I choose the "continue without Eircode" which I assume checks on phone number only, it is not available.

WTF...whoever compiled the database has made a hash of it, I think...

The problem is that sales staff will only go by the database and they only seem to search by Phone number, not Eir Code...

Gonzo

This is a really worrying development alright. There is already a database error on my line as I'm not getting the 'fiber might be available message' and no eircode checker. I wasn't too concerned about it until I read about these problems here yesterday.

FTTH is supposed to work for everyone who has it passing their house. If I end up with this problem I will not leave them alone till it's working.

Gwynston

Shyboy wrote: »

I think (but not 100% sure) that the ones that pass for FTTH ordered it through the Eir rep that called before Xmas...and the ones that fail for FTTH didn't order it, just said they would think about it...

...a coincidence??

That's a worrying revelation, if true.
It would suggest that they're simply not going to cope with the avalanche of homes trying to sign up as more areas get wired up over the coming months. If they're already giving priority to homes that have been visited by an Eir shark, sorry "sales rep" (!) it's already looking like a lottery... :rolleyes:

As for my area, this morning I saw a single KN van on the opposite side of Claregalway to where I am (where I saw KN van over a month ago at the end of my blue line). On that Galway side of the village the blue lines are connected directly to the Claregalway exchange, whereas on my side we'll go via the Loughgeorge cabinet (already FTTC live).

Shyboy

Just noticed something else as well, I have tried a few neighbours phone numbers around our village on the Eir checkers, all passed with fibre on the poles and are fully finished, but some pass for FTTH on the line checker and some don't...

I think (but not 100% sure) that the ones that pass for FTTH ordered it through the Eir rep that called before Xmas...and the ones that fail for FTTH didn't order it, just said they would think about it...

...a coincidence??

Shyboy

Gonzo wrote: »

did an Eir sales team go door to door in the area and skip your house? Has the sales teams been to your area?

There was a Eir sales guy around just before Christmas but, typical, I was out at the time. My wife, who shys away from anything technical, asked him to call back later, but he never did.

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Keep a watch for workers making connections in the locality ..... you might be able to get it sorted through them if nothing has been done beforehand.

That's a really good idea, I must keep an eye out in the area...

Gonzo

Shyboy wrote: »

Absolutely...I will take a few photos tomorrow and post them here.

The only thing that I am hoping is that their database is not complete for this area as yet and I might show up on their database over the next few days/weeks...but we will see...

did an Eir sales team go door to door in the area and skip your house? Has the sales teams been to your area?

Johnboy1951

It really sounds like whoever you spoke with doesn't know the difference between FTTH & FTTC.
If the fibre is on the pole outside your house there is no reason at all you won't get connected ...... regardless what those on the other end of the line might think.

Keep a watch for workers making connections in the locality ..... you might be able to get it sorted through them if nothing has been done beforehand.

Shyboy

Gonzo wrote: »

that would be a very good idea, this really shouldn't happen tho. Once the fiber is wired to the pole outside your front gate you should be able to get FTTH. This was a very planned project, Open Eir planned what routes/houses would get FTTH before we ever saw the blue line map. This is not like FTTC where one house gets it and the next one doesnt in between 2 houses that get it.

Absolutely...I will take a few photos tomorrow and post them here.

The only thing that I am hoping is that their database is not complete for this area as yet and I might show up on their database over the next few days/weeks...but we will see...

Gonzo

Deleted User wrote: »

+1
and Post a few photos of the FTTH installation outside your house.

that would be a very good idea, this really shouldn't happen tho. Once the fiber is wired to the pole outside your front gate you should be able to get FTTH. This was a very planned project, Open Eir planned what routes/houses would get FTTH before we ever saw the blue line map. This is not like FTTC where one house gets it and the next one doesnt in between 2 houses that get it.

[Deleted User]

KeRbDoG wrote: »

Have you tried the "Talk to..." Eir forum here on boards? They might be able to help

+1
and Post a few photos of the FTTH installation outside your house.

KeRbDoG

Have you tried the "Talk to..." Eir forum here on boards? They might be able to help

Shyboy

Gonzo wrote: »

could it just be a database error, I hope i'm not gonna end up in same boat. Surely once the fiber goes to the pole that your line is on you should instantly pass once live?

I hope so...to be honest, the people who I have spoken to at Eir really don't seem to understand FTTH technology, they seemed to be getting it confused with FTTC. They tried to tell me that some lines don't pass as they are not connected to the cabinet. I tried to explain that there is no cabinet involved (at least in our area), we are all wired with fibre right back to the exchange.

Funnily enough, the neighbours either side of me who's lines are passing, will be wired to the box on the pole which is directly outside my house...and I am the one who cannot currently get it...

irishkopite 2011

Shyboy wrote: »

So my FTTH saga goes on. After our exchange in Turloughmore, County Galway went live on 28th Dec (although I think it really went live earlier this week), Eir kept on telling me that it is not available on my line as yet.

So, I talk to a few neighbours who have been able to order it from Eir and I call Eir back. They now tell me that, yes, FTTH is available in my area but unfortunately, my line is not passing on their system for it, even though both houses either side of me are?

Does Eir still run a line prequal test on lines every so often, and by any chance do I have to wait for that to update?

:mad:

Find out what address your neighbours gave to eir, this might got be the issue. E.g. If you say bog road and your neighbours don't.

Gonzo

Shyboy wrote: »

So my FTTH saga goes on. After our exchange in Turloughmore, County Galway went live on 28th Dec (although I think it really went live earlier this week), Eir kept on telling me that it is not available on my line as yet.

So, I talk to a few neighbours who have been able to order it from Eir and I call Eir back. They now tell me that, yes, FTTH is available in my area but unfortunately, my line is not passing on their system for it, even though both houses either side of me are?

Does Eir still run a line prequal test on lines every so often, and by any chance do I have to wait for that to update?

:mad:

could it just be a database error, I hope i'm not gonna end up in same boat. Surely once the fiber goes to the pole that your line is on you should instantly pass once live?

Johnboy1951

Shyboy wrote: »

So my FTTH saga goes on. After our exchange in Turloughmore, County Galway went live on 28th Dec (although I think it really went live earlier this week), Eir kept on telling me that it is not available on my line as yet.

So, I talk to a few neighbours who have been able to order it from Eir and I call Eir back. They now tell me that, yes, FTTH is available in my area but unfortunately, my line is not passing on their system for it, even though both houses either side of me are?

Does Eir still run a line prequal test on lines every so often, and by any chance do I have to wait for that to update?

:mad:

This is surely not FTTH if there is any reference to copper line ..... seems it might be FTTC? In which case it is possible your copper line is not going to the cabinet.

Shyboy

So my FTTH saga goes on. After our exchange in Turloughmore, County Galway went live on 28th Dec (although I think it really went live earlier this week), Eir kept on telling me that it is not available on my line as yet.

So, I talk to a few neighbours who have been able to order it from Eir and I call Eir back. They now tell me that, yes, FTTH is available in my area but unfortunately, my line is not passing on their system for it, even though both houses either side of me are?

Does Eir still run a line prequal test on lines every so often, and by any chance do I have to wait for that to update?

:mad:

Gonzo

marno21 wrote: »

Have they said themselves they will be doing 36,000 per quarter?

With a rollout like this, and all the factors invovled, they won't be doing it steadily. It'll come in bursts, especially towards the end when half the forum is giving out about them not meeting their targets.

just rechecked, they mentioned 35k per quarter in the interview link below if it is to be believed.

“We need to be delivering 35,000 a quarter and we are ramping up to that, but it is a huge job."

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/open-eir-interview-carol-lennon-rural-fibre

marno21

Gonzo wrote: »

They have dropped all mentions of first 100k and March. Their end goal is now all 300k completed by end of December 2018 at a rate of approx 36,000 every quarter. Most exchanges originally to be completed by March 2017 are planned to be finished by mid 2017, some were moved to end of 2017. Some exchanges are at least a year behind schedule due to the very slow start during 2016.

We are all hoping that progress this will year will be much faster and on time, it kinda has to be if they are to reach their target Dec 2018.

Have they said themselves they will be doing 36,000 per quarter?

With a rollout like this, and all the factors invovled, they won't be doing it steadily. It'll come in bursts, especially towards the end when half the forum is giving out about them not meeting their targets.