Gonzo wrote: » im really not sure it means much, there is a pole on our road with a D on it for over 6 months now.
WexIan wrote: » An Eir linesman was repairing a fault for me recently and there was a dodgy pole on my drive which needed replacing, so he put a red D on it, reported that it needed replacing and within 2 weeks a crew replaced it.
Gonzo wrote: » the pole I was referring to just got replaced a few days before Christmas when the lads were finishing up wiring/splicing. A friend of mine who used to live in the area moved to Sweden about 6 years ago and was home for Christmas. He lives in a rural part of southern Sweden just outside a town with few houses away from the urban area. He has 8meg ADSL similar to myself. I was telling him that FTTH is launching here soon and told him about the general rollout and Eir's plans to cover just slightly over 300,000 premises with FTTH. He was absolutely shocked, how Eir have changed so much from the company he remembered before he moved away. He recently got a quote for a fiber installation in his swedish rural home and the quote came to between 4k and 5k's worth in euros. Obviously he didn't proceed. Other people he knows living in rural areas have had quote's up to 10k. They will be stuck on ADSL for many more years it seems. He said we have no idea how lucky we are to be getting a rollout such as this in Ireland and for a relatively small payment by the customer. He said most of the areas that are being covered by Eir's plans would not get a look in in many other European countries.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » In many parts of Sweden they rely on LTE for reasonable connections. Of course it has all the problems mentioned on various threads on Boards, but their LTE is much further advanced than ours has been. I agree with your friend's view ...... even if it does take until 2020 or 2022 to get this finished, we should all be looking very positively on the NBP as we know it presently and be prepared to defend the aim against any change that might be tried to cut back that aim. Eir made a commercial decision to do the blue-lines, based on the NBP aims. Hopefully neither will be changed in the coming years. It would be nice to know we did it 'right' even if it is to take longer than we might wish.
[B]Pop Density per km^2[/B] Republic of Ireland 65 Finland 16 Norway 13 Sweden 20
plodder wrote: » My exchange in rural North county Dublin has changed back to green "build commenced". FTTH date still says early/mid 2017.
KeRbDoG wrote: » One of those Oldtown or Ballyboughal? Seems they had been on the initial rollout announcements. Would they be considered rural or urban rollouts as they have moderately densely populated cores
Gonzo wrote: » 3 exchanges should be going live today for FTTH, Belclare, Cornamona and Torloughmore. Admittidely 3 places I never heard of till last week:)
Shyboy wrote: » Well, I called Eir about an hour ago and they still say that I cannot order FTTH as yet, line showing not available so they have not launched Turloughmore today. Unless it takes a bit of time to show up on their system?
Gonzo wrote: » that's strange, wasn't your line showing as FTTH available on the eir fiber checker about a month ago?
Shyboy wrote: » Yes, it is so annoying... If I enter my Eir code, it says that FTTH is available at my address and allows me to order it (to which I get a reply from sales after 24hrs that it is not available). But if I enter just my phone number, it says it is not available...
Gonzo wrote: » ... even tho Fiber is now fixed to the pole beside my gate with a splice box/distribution point only 25 meters away from where I'm sitting!.
plodder wrote: » I'm in Oldtown, but Ballyboughal and Oldtown have always had the same status and yeah it appears to be just the rural FTTH rollout, as per the blue lines on the map. It is strange that there hasn't been better DSL coverage up to now. Don't know why that was.
Gonzo wrote: » the line checker is weird, my number is the only number in the entire area not showing up the '1000mb broadband might be available in your area' message and no eircode checker either, even tho Fiber is now fixed to the pole beside my gate with a splice box/distribution point only 25 meters away from where I'm sitting!.
damienirel wrote: » That is bloody annoying!
Gonzo wrote: » It sure is, I hope it doesn't mean I could miss out due to some incorrect line checker.
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » In relation to the link posted by damienirl in the NBP thread,http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/government-has-tough-call-to-make-as-broadband-tender-enters-endgame-1.2919259 what are people's opinions on this? If you were on a blue line but in an area not in the first 100K premises would you be happy to have your premises removed from the NBP intervention map? Do people trust Openeir to stick to their deadlines? It is interesting to note that the author of the article claims that Openeir have abandoned their regional FTTH rollout since 2015.
Gonzo wrote: » the regional/66 towns rollout has not been abandoned, it's just going very slowly. They enabled 60 homes in Bray a few weeks ago and on 2nd January they are enabling Roscommon town. They will bring them to about 20 areas enabled out of 66.
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » In fairness it is as good as abandoned. It is going to get even less precedence as the NBP gets going.
Gonzo wrote: » they should have completed about 40 towns by this stage, tho tbh these towns all have great internet anyway, either Virgin Media or lots of FTTC cabs and the uptake to FTTH in those areas would not take off for years, whereas the rollout switching to the rural areas where there is going to be a huge uptake is probably the right choice. the majority of people living in towns will just go for whatever is cheapest either VM or FTTC, their not gonna be all scrambling to pay 30 euros more for a speed bump that will be barely noticeable for a few years.
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Gonzo wrote: » I think they can be trusted to complete the 300,000 by end of 2018, afterall they completed the FTTC rollout on time, it too got off to a slow start from what I remember. Cabs not finished that are held up on planning problems is outside their control. I reckon it will take most of 2017 for Open Eir to catch up to where they should be with alot of momentum starting next week. The 66 towns has been put on the back burner for a reason, why put all the effort into that when there won't be many sales in areas where there is already loads of competition. It's also obvious that the blue line project is a thing because of the NBP contracts. There are several roads between Dunshaughlin and Ashbourne that are blue lined at the start and at the end with a few bits of blue lines in the middle and gaps inbetween which are NBP areas. If Eir do blue line all these sections by 2018, how are a rival company meant to service these gaps if all the other sections are Eir's network. It really is putting the opposition in a very tough spot if they have to fill in the gaps and don't have access to the blue lined sections.
Allison Puny Appetite wrote: » Apparently eir were willing to commit to a guarantee before although what the terms were was never disclosed.http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/eir-open-to-giving-broadband-commitment-to-300000-homes-and-businesses-400390.html Legal action seems likely no matter what option the Department chooses.