Stoner wrote: » It was more than that and you know it. He could easily have walked for it and you'd all be mad with him for doing something that got him sent off in front of the officials. He was lucky to stay on but that's all we can say about it or its potential outcome, but it was more than a shoulder off the ball, that suggests a late tackle.
Supernintento Chalmers wrote: » No, he quit but was persuaded to come back. At the time I thought it was maybe over distaste at what happened to H&C, but with all that has come out, who knows? It's amazing Mayo got as far as they did this year, considering all the drama that was going on.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Here is the game. Have a look around the 45 minute mark. Doherty runs in after the goal is scored to stop the ball coming out for the quick kickout. Cooper grabs the ball ahead of him. Doherty collides into him at around quarter pace. Cooper jumps down on the ground, first holding his face, then getting treated for his back. Then around 90 seconds later he is up, still acting groggy, and 10 seconds later receives the kickout and amazingly jumps into life and hares off up the field. If anything, what the exchange suggests is that he annoyed the ref with his over-egging the supposed injury and got no leeway with the black card call. After watching it back, I must say well done to the ref on this incident. He might have gotten a few calls wrong but that one he adjudicated perfectly.
Jaden wrote: » This is possibly one of the most overt attempts at revisionism I have ever seen. Had you not specifically mentioned Cooper's name, it would have been difficult to conclude that you were describing the incident that occurred in that game. It goes without saying that this renders any discussion being had here as meaningless, and devoid of purpose or merit. Merry Christmas.
Cartman78 wrote: » Robeman;102034218 The "outside influences" would have a meeting with the "egos" I don't want to sound snarky, but could you please enlighten us as to who or what 'outside influences' you're referring to? You're seemingly a lot closer to the issue than the rest of us on here so it would be helpful if you stopped talking in riddles and muddying the waters
MayoAreMagic wrote: » That is what happened in the clip, so that is what I will comment on. Other people's biased rhetoric isn't something I will be tiptoeing around Im afraid. Id imagine you didn't even watch the clip back.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Nonsense. The tweet was done by his club team mates as a joke. There was a picture posted of them on a team bus a few hours afterwards kitted out in xmas jumpers and with the mayo intermediate championship trophy. Also, this tweet went out in 2014, - Holmes and Connelly managed them in 2015... People shouldn't be so gullible as to be biting for these clear attempts at winding mayo posters up.
BENDYBINN wrote: » Don't forget to watch the clip at22 05 when the Dublin lad shoved the mayo lad and it should have been a free but wasn't bla bla bla bla
Supernintento Chalmers wrote: » I referred to 2016
seligehgit wrote: » OK I personally most certainly did not hear that.I am not sure what there's to be gained by revealing what may have been a personal decision by Keith Higgins and where there may not have been any ulterior motive.TBH I believe that us keyboard warriors do not need nor deserve to know all the interior dynamics of the Mayo setup.Leaks like the goalkeeper switch on the morning of the All Ireland should not be occurring.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Provide evidence of this tweet, and when you claim it occurred.
boosabum wrote: » Padd, Its interesting that you say that as the rumour mill had it that the goalkeeping coach was working hard to convince the management team that a change was not in the best interests. Maybe PB kept his council to his friends but they was consultation
padd b1975 wrote: » Oh fair enough, it did make his position borderline untenable if feedback was discouraged or ignored.
Poor_old_gill wrote: » On Aidan- he has flattered to deceive for the last few years now which is a real pity but it's hard to miss the fact that he looks distracted a lot of time and seems too interested in cultivating his own self image. I guess in some ways its a tough one- players need to manage their careers and profile so that they can angle for something out of it on a professional level and I'd imagine that Aidan has his eyes on being a pundit/TV personality. He is perfectly entitled to do this on a personal level but it is likely to have a detrimental impact on his (and most people's game concentration)- but fans dont see it like that- they want to win and Aidan hasn't proved, as yet, to be a winner or to be able to perform on the big day
Supernintento Chalmers wrote: » When did I mention a tweet?
MayoAreMagic wrote: » No we cant. Repeat it all you want. It isn't the case.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » I thought you had. So you have nothing to prove any of this at all then? Hardly expect to be taken seriously do you?
Supernintento Chalmers wrote: » It's true. Couldn't care less if you believe me or not.
rrs wrote: » Who was the player Aidan O Shea was complaining about, about not being in the match panel 26?
awaywithyou wrote: » I wonder what would Jim mcguiness do if he was the Mayo manager.... My guess is Aidan o Shea would get the road..... Similar to Cassidy... And anyone else who had an unjustified high opinion of themselves as footballers would quickly follow suit...!
charlie1980 wrote: » I think there is a very strong case for the O'Sheas to be dropped,let them suck it up on the bench and prove themselves as impact subs.If they don't like it or play ball,they should be told where the door is.Dillon and Hennelly should be dispatched from the panel asap,no point having them hang around like a bad smell. Rochford has a great opportunity to take complete and utter control and rule with an iron fist,it's what great managers do.Anything less would be craven and end in another sad story.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » No not really. I mean if the ref gets that right and everything else is the same, they win the all Ireland. So really and truly, how far wrong can they be? I don't believe that the players refuse to look at themselves. If they did, they wouldn't be getting near where they are getting. It just doesn't stack up. Im no players fanboy, but you have to look at it objectively and not take the word of either as gospel. When you do that, you see that what the two guys are claiming, simply doesn't reflect in reality. I don't know of any hard luck stories for Dublin in that period to be honest with you. They were generally beaten soundly when the loss came - like mayo throughout the 00s. Can you give any examples? However, the thing is you don't have to be the best team to win a trophy (Kerry 2014, Dublin 2011, Donegal 1992 etc). You just have to win on the day. Mayo came close to doing that a few times - Id argue done enough to do it, had the rules of the game been adjudicated more soundly. Surely that is a reasonable point and worthy of genuine discussion? Guys, generally fans from the opposing team, tend to knock that. But that doesn't mean they are right. Sorry, but the dubs whinge more than anyone when something doesn't go their way. 2012. The several Connolly incidents. Lee Keegan being, frankly, too good for their best player. It hasn't stopped them winning. Indeed tyrone before them, never stopped whinging in the 00s. Again, they won plenty.
Godge wrote: » This post should be bookmarked and taken out again next year when Mayo lose out again. Unless Mayo stop blaming referees and outside influences, they are never going to win an All-Ireland.
