[Deleted User] wrote: » Amazing how despite all their privilege white men in Ireland die substantially younger than white women, work typically much longer hours and much later into their life and commit suicide in far higher numbers. Might avail of the aul sex change if it gets me an extra decade or so.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » That's not the same thing, at all. It's a privileged position in terms of your place in society. That doesn't mean all straight white men have it easy. The fact you work longer hours and later in life is of your own doing. Historically men are the ones who go to work and pay the bills, women stay home and raise the kids. Given we've all bought into the modern Ireland of two cars, big house, several sun holidays a year etc. I'd expect those figures to balance out in the next few decades.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I truly hope you can see the startling hypocrisy in this post.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » I said "white male" in relation to how it's a privileged position to be in. To say you can't know what it's like to be discriminated against because you're a man would be inaccurate. As IBF pointed out men are often discriminated against but it's never for just being a man, it's for being a gay man, or a black man, or a Muslim man etc.
Teferi wrote: » You're not answering my question. Traditionally, Ireland hasn't institutionalised racism against PoC and seeing that 97% of the population is white it would hard to classify it as a 'privilege'. Plenty of casual racism mind and we could increase support to non-EU migrants, but we've never really institutionalised anything like the US. With that in mind, answer my question.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » Clearly I don't understand what you're asking then. I've done my best to explain my use of the term in this conversation and in the wider sense. If it's not the answer you're looking for there's nothing more I can do.
swiwi_ wrote: » http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/bar-worker-who-slipped-in-pigeon-droppings-at-heuston-station-awarded-25k-35287670.html :rolleyes:
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » Probably irrelevant but I see she's a smoker. Courts shouldn't award money for accidents to people who willingly poison themselves.
Teferi wrote: » I mean, I don't know how I can make a question simpler than: When you say 'White Man' why does race come into it in the context of Ireland for the reasons I outlined above? So I don't think it's my fault you don't or won't understand. Perhaps ideologies you subscribe to require further examination.
Felix Jones is God wrote: » Do you drink....add salt to your food....drink diet cola...any of these and many more would mean that nobody would ever win a monetary award again
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » I've already explained why I used the term in this conversation. My answer clearly isn't the one you want it to be.
Teferi wrote: » No, it's because you're not making sense. You brought up race, I questioned it and explained why being 'white' in Ireland isn't a privilege and then you changed tact to gender and attempted to equate it to race in some manner.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » I explained why I brought up race in the conversation I was having. You weren't happy with that answer. Nothing more I can do.
irishbucsfan wrote: » Definitely wouldn't have a hope if you willingly played rugby!
Teferi wrote: » And I explained why it was pure nonsense. I see this is going in circles so I'll just leave it there.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » If you played any sport and were prevented from doing so by an accident that was someone else's fault then it would probably stand to your case.
irishbucsfan wrote: » On what ground exactly do you think someone who smokes or drinks should not be awarded compensation due to an accident? Is it not the fact they are willingly engaging in unhealthy practices?
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » She slipped on some poo and what? Got a bruise? So she thinks she's entitled to a pay out. Meanwhile she is doing actual damage to her own health by choice. Why should a company or individual have to shell out for injuries caused to someone who is injuring themselves on an ongoing basis? If you're trapped under a wall that collapsed because a builder did a half arsed job and nobody bothered to check it then sure, the fact you smoke is irrelevant. If you slip on some pigeon poo in what is essentially an outdoor work space, it's not the same thing.
TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: » I feel like I could say the sky is blue and someone would disagree with me today. Best to take a break.
mfceiling wrote: » Sooooo.....episode 5 of peaky blinders last night. God it's good. The accents are all over the place but Cillian Murphy has some screen presence. The scenes with "nidge" were great (Tom V L). Cinematography is excellent. All in all it's a thumbs up here.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Didn't realise it was back. Am still on season 2!
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