quinnd6 wrote: » Tinder and Online dating are shallow garbage. I think I tried Tinder for a week because I was bored and got nowhere and gave up. I tried online dating for years and got nowhere and gave up. I've given up looking online and offline. I've zero faith in women in Ireland. I don't care anymore. I'm staying single. I don't have a choice but I don't give a flying fig anymore I'm finished with it.
zulutango wrote: » Girls who wear make up are a turn off to me. I know that rules out a lot of girls but I've been lucky enough to meet some great ones who aren't into make up so will hold out for them.
Eric Cartman wrote: » ohh 100% , I think under 30 its mostly aesthetics or to improve at a sport you compete in , over that its a health / life preservation / doctor telling you to get fit thing.
mojesius wrote: » My advice as a woman - Get off tinder. Spend your free time doing the things that you love doing as an individual. The rest will follow. Good luck to you
One eyed Jack wrote: » since human civilisation began when people discovered fire, never mind tinder!
One eyed Jack wrote: » Look at some of the posts on this thread from those who are practically obsessed with tinder (and before then there was POF, before then smooch, before then bebo, etc, etc), and you really have to ask yourself are the use of these new media actually creating the problem, or just facilitating a problem that's always been a part of human nature? I would say myself they're simply facilitating a small minority of people who really shouldn't take these apps so seriously to the point that it begins to affect their mental health tbh.
punk_one82 wrote: » Fair enough, maybe someone would start going to a gym in a relationship if they feel they want to lose some weight rather than be toned. Still an issue? Fact of the matter is people can be unhappy with certain aspects of themselves and a gym is a healthy solution to some of those problems, leading to high self-esteem and more confidence...and you'd be unhappy with a partner going to one, just because you don't think anyone should need to do that to themselves? It's great for you that you can seemingly be oozing confidence without having to do a single thing to make you feel happier about your appearance. An awful lot of people put some sort of effort into making themselves look better be it with the clothes they buy, the hairstyles they have or the makeup they wear in order to give them a bit of a confidence boost.
punk_one82 wrote: You're not one for generalisations are you?
zulutango wrote: » Why else would somebody wear make-up? They're hardly trying to make themselves look worse!
punk_one82 wrote: » You said they're not confident in their own skin if they wear make up. That's a serious generalisation and doesn't equate to wanting to look better.
zulutango wrote: » So, you're saying they can be confident in their own skin but also think they don't look good enough. It seems like a bit of a logical twist to be honest.
punk_one82 wrote: » There are many reasons women might want to wear makeup. What you've pointed out is one of them, not the only one.
zulutango wrote: » Can you list a few of the other reasons?
dottie_lottie wrote: » Some people actually enjoy makeup, it seems weird to me, but they enjoy it like a hobby, trying out new products, trying different techniques and perfecting them, different colour combinations, some people look on it as an creative extension of fashion and it's not really about insecurity for them, it's about expression. Granted there are a lot of people who cake it on out of insecurity, I have friends I've NEVER seen without makeup for that reason which makes me sad for them. But that's not the reason for everybody.
punk_one82 wrote: » No, I encourage you to use some common sense and figure them out for yourself. dottie_lottie has helped you get started.
Eric Cartman wrote: » Some would say, personally I just take myself out of it. I have absolutely 0 long term interest in a girl with a gym membership, one who wears makeup to anything except weddings/fancy outings (ideally id like a complete non makeup wearer, but thats not going to happen) or has to keep up with fashion trends. Im not arsed with any of that aesthetic crap so wouldn't want a partner to be either.
Eric Cartman wrote: » a little mascara I probably wouldn't mind, but somebody who needs a full face of crap just to leave the house just isn't for me. Ive known a few women in my life who can just get out of bed on a saturday , have a shower , put on a tshirt and jeans and go down the pub, not waiting round for an hour for a princess to get ready. the gym thing deals with a range of issues, 1) low self esteem - I'm just done with this, I'm completely done with women who dislike themselves / their bodies , its just annoying and leads to headaches for me. 2) Talking about the gym - I can think of nothing more boring to talk about than the gym / working out / how many calories/miles/lifts whatever they did. 3) Serial Dieters / Calorie Counters / Girls who insist on diet coke or only eat half a meal or call themselves fat or have their mood dictated by the number on a scales, I am not here on this earth to be the victim who has to listen to / deal with that.
Dr Crayfish wrote: » I would tend to agree apart from the fact that outside of work and the daily grind, a lot of people don't have any things they love doing that involves socialising. I really enjoy my routine of cycling, work, gym, one or two hobbies, holidays etc and having a few drinks with my friends at the weekend, but it doesn't naturally lead to be knee deep in clunge either! Not that I'm looking for anyone I'm just making a case for folk similar to me.
Lux23 wrote: » I remember getting messages from men on POF saying things like you have a real natural beauty. I had it said to me out as well on occasion. I wear make up pretty much everyday. The lesson I learned from that is the vast majority of men are pretty clueless when it comes to make up and a lot of the time they are just put off by women who are clueless at applying it. So I take these comments about make up with a pinch of salt.
Kal El wrote: » It wouldnt bother me at all if a girl had a gym membership, I know the girls/guys youre talking about btw. I generally have little to do with them douchebag people. I think you will find that girls wear make up a lot more than you think, but I would be in the same bag as you on that one, Id just re-word it into girl who doesnt plaster on makeup :pac: . I married a foreign girl as I never met a Irish who filled the criteria :pac: ps nothing against Irish girls, coincidence purely
riffmongous wrote: » It's strange but when I saw it mentioned and think about it I am also disinterested in girls who say they go to the gym.. for some reason I associate it with boring, vacuous people, possibly because of tv shows or something In my subconscious interesting girls do hiking or climbing or similar hobbies
riffmongous wrote: » It's strange but when I saw it mentioned and think about it I am also disinterested in girls who say they go to the gym.. for some reason I associate it with boring, vacuous people, possibly because of tv shows or something