Cornelius Crow wrote: » How old are these guys? That is a bit dickish IMO. Some people might take offence to the second explanation, but the bolded bit is worse in my book. Also, while that may go some way to explaining why some guys will respond if i send the first message, or if they're not really interested, what about the guys who send the first message or are supposedly interested and don't grasp what i mean when i point out that their conversational skills leave a lot to be desired?
BabyE wrote: » Somehow I've kept going gym for the last 6 years, non-stop even though about 3 years in I realised as a short guy with (I assume) a face that isn't attractive to girls even though I don't think I'm ugly(but not being ugly doesn't mean anything, its about being positively good looking), that it was a fruitless endeavour but I've continued going, wasn't it Einstein who said the definition of madness is doing something again and again and expecting a different result
Cornelius Crow wrote: » Yeah I've used it on and off over about 2 years, met roughly 6 or 7 guys off it. Met two of them a second time each
Deleted User wrote: » If you are short then you have zero elbow room nowadays for any other flaws in my opinion so it's wise to keep it up!
The Talking Bread wrote: » Oh, give over! Do you mean to say you contact a woman online and ask/invite them over for sex! And they invite you over or come over without any public interaction! That is a bit sad if thats how you go about pulling! Whatever about people meeting up, going for drinks and on the probable assumption they may end up sleeping with eachother. To call over to a strangers house for the sole reason to have sex is just socially strange.
Kal El wrote: » Yes this happens quiet a lot not just with me but countless others. This is my point about tinder, I wasnt the only one using it for just one reason. Why is it sad, if I dont want to go out drinking hoping to pick up women, whats wrong with sitting in reading a book and messaging a girl and ask her over , I probably know her as well as id know a girl I met out drinking
BabyE wrote: » Legit, short is an absolute death sentence unless you happen to have a top tier face.
blacklilly wrote: » I totally agree but it happens more regularly than you'd think. Not my thing at all
The Talking Bread wrote: » I a well aware such happens. But the casual admission (claim) that he does it frequently doesn't seem to resonate with me as normal behaviour! I would prefer to meet someone and go on a date and then see where it goes as sleeping with a woman who would agree to engage in sex with a stranger online w/out meeting them is just f'in ridiculous. Its just free prostitution!
BabyE wrote: » Yes it happens on a primal level, deep down, it's not like they are doing this actively, rather it is the results of millions of years of evolution. But c'mon tell me how it's 'all about personality', and 'confidence' and 'being interesting' while every good looking guy I know has girls on tap.
Deleted User wrote: » I feel though that by even saying this on the internet we are adding slightly to the toxicity of the culture .. like it is kind of arbitrary what height is considered short. 100 years ago I would've been average height. It would be great to be able to contemplate the theory of all this with my body *just happening to be* 4 inches taller!
BabyE wrote: » Legit, people are still under this illusion about girls that they don't have a primal sexual desire like men. Girls love sex, especially sex with good looking, extroverted, high demand man.
Kal El wrote: » Im still surprised when people are shocked about it. Just because you prefer it doesnt make it universal. Im not trying to tell you to do it, Im merely pointing out how often it is done. That fact that you compare it to prostitution is a stone age view and very judgemental. I wasnt making a claim its merely how tinder works, Im actually surprised you werent aware about it
The Talking Bread wrote: » I guess sex is sex for different people! It seems to be like ordering a pizza for you!
The Talking Bread wrote: » It isn't done that often. It really isn't. And I never said I wasn't aware of it but yeah, it is very hard not to judge someone who uses tinder to "rent a ride" frequently!
Kal El wrote: » Its really quiet common place tbh. I have travelled and lived with a group of over 50 guys and everyone of us did it. We ranged on level of attractiveness. Why would you judge someone over it though serious question
Kal El wrote: » I wouldnt say you dont know how to use it then. I would recommend the same thing I tell guys to do, only match the people youre proper attracted to and dont waste time on maybes (granted you might miss a few guys you like) but in general it works better
BabyE wrote: » I'd say you'd be surprised bro. I bet you guys are better looking than girl equivalents. If you guys are picking up chicks that easy you guys are probably part of the problem(no hate) so I'd say you guys are getting with girls who are a few points below you on the looks scale.
Cornelius Crow wrote: » I do know how to use it, and thats what i do
The Talking Bread wrote: » Why wouldn't you make a judgement over someone for doing it. If you heard your sister was out meeting strangers she never met in person and going down merely have sex, would it not turn your head. I think most people would judge a woman for doing it and Id equally judge a lad if thats the sexual lifestyle they go by!
BabyE wrote: » The difference is a guy wouldn't want to be with a girl that had been with a lot of guys, but for a girl that would be a sign of his desirability and would render him more attractive. "'A key that can open many locks is called a master key, but a lock that can be opened by many keys is a ****ty lock.'”
The Talking Bread wrote: » You seem to have a very negative approach to the mind of a woman and you claim to be very unsuccessful with women. There may just be a connection there.
BabyE wrote: » WTF it is simple human psychology. I'm going to start a Tinder experiment later, normally when people run these experiments they do so by using subjects that vary widely, i.e a male model vs some neckbeard. I will run an average 5/10 guy(good style, works out) vs a 6.8/10 rugby jock, not exactly handsome but has all the trappings of desirability. I guarantee the rugby jock will obliterate the 5/10. The disparity shouldn't be too great but knowing how the dating game works.
BabyE wrote: WTF it is simple human psychology. I'm going to start a Tinder experiment later, normally when people run these experiments they do so by using subjects that vary widely, i.e a male model vs some neckbeard. I will run an average 5/10 guy vs a 6.8/10 rugby jock, not exactly handsome but has all the trappings of desirability. I guarantee the rugby jock will obliterate the 5/10. The disparity shouldn't be too great but knowing how the dating game works.
The Talking Bread wrote: » the fact is you can't seem to see past this and you have a negative prejudice against women it seems so it makes for very unattractive traits. If you lived your dating life by basic psychology and experiments the chances are you are going to be unsuccessful. Now that is basic psychology also.
dottie_lottie wrote: » That's a flawed approach to an experiment. Firstly the rankings of 5/10 and 6.8/10 are arbitrary and totally subjective not all women find the same things attractive and attractiveness is not definitively measurable. Secondly you've no way to ensure that the same women view both profiles. So basically all ur doing tonight is catfishing a bunch of women, and pretending its an experiment. Is it any wonder women are reluctant to respond to messages
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