finglashoop wrote: » Again my opinion of what should happen.
Mellor wrote: » You said the title was vacant, but that's not true. And that that Aldo didn't fight anyone for it, which isn't true either (Frankie). These are just the facts, not opinions. Aldo held the official interim title, When Conor was stripped he automatically becomes champion. That's are simply what happens. It's the same as if he was stripped before UFC 200. To do what you are describing, they would have needed to strip Conor AND Aldo. The physical belt that Aldo had last week, is the same physical belt he holds now. He hasn't been given a new one. It was the same when Cruz was stripped. Barao (as interim) automatically became undisputed champion. She fought Kaufman to become UFC champ. Whilst it was a Strikeforce fight (under Zuffa) it was announced beforehand the division was being absorbed and the winner would become the inaugural champion.
finglashoop wrote: » Conor had the belt. Aldo had the interim. They take it off mcgregor and i think aldo should fight someone for it. Instead of aldo getting the belt. Its not a misconception as i understand why aldo gets it. Its an opinion. It looks bad if you take the belt off the fella who knocked you out in 13 seconds and you get given it.
scudzilla wrote: » Wasn't Rousey just handed a belt, she didn't have to fight anyone for it IIRC
Mellor wrote: » Not sure why you are still banging that drum. Your misconception was pointed out yesterday. The title was never vacant. There's been an interim belt since July.
finglashoop wrote: » They made a mess of stripping mcgregor and just handing it to Aldo. They should have had him fight someone for the now vacant title.
Depp wrote: » cruz-dillashaw and rda alvarez were both on fight nights.
Just think its a bad call by the ufc to remove your biggest draw from a division that traditionally does poorly.
Mellor wrote: » General MMA fans know that, the "general public" know fk all tbh. And what does their opinion matter - what does any opinion matter really. The people calling Aldo a bum make about as much sense as the people discrediting McGregor at every opportunity. It's all very odd. I also don't understand the whole "back to the fight night cards" mentality. They aren't putting belts on fight nights anytime soon. But even if they do. What does it matter? If I want to see a fight, I'll watch it. If we get offer Aldo vrs Holloway down the line. It makes no difference to me whether it's on the UFC210 PPV or UFC on Fox 25.
winston82 wrote: » That's incorrect. Aldo has been a dominant champion going ten years. The general public who don't lick McGregors ring piece know he got clipped and can happen to anyone.
Faugheen wrote: » On the flip side, he completely tore Faber apart over Dillashaw.
finglashoop wrote: » Hes weird with faber as well. Going on about how much faber makes from his fighters etc was very strange.
Depp wrote: » think the interview with tj is a good example of that alright...mad him look like an idiot
Faugheen wrote: » Oh he's a total oddball, but when it comes to press obligations with his opponent he's excellent at shutting them down. Him and McGregor at the same press conference (not necessarily for a match between them) where they're going back and forth with each other would be gold.
Gamebred wrote: » He comes across very odd to me, lives at home with his pet poodle dog comes across to me as a complete narcissist.
Faugheen wrote: » The only other person that could really be pushed as a huge star is Dominick Cruz. One of the best trash talkers in the game but combined with McGregor's more attractive soundbytes and the fact the Bantemweight division has no depth it's hard to invest in that. Now if Cruz was to move up to featherweight, then it's the prime opportunity.
Depp wrote: » most on here share similar sentiment, we'll watch the cards regardless, but the casual fan is still very important, for every ''mcgregor fan'' that tunes into a card to see mcgregor, a good number of those will watch the rest of the card, like what they see, and become ''mma fans''. thats why you need big stars with big followings to grow the sport. I think a lot of the fault is on the individual fighters and not neceserily the ufc...one example is aldo, could have been a huge star, guy was a total beast in the cage but with that alone its not going to give you a connection with the fans, if aldo had learned to speak english and improved his skills on the mic he would have been a lot bigger than he is. too many guys still in that old school ''I do my talking with my fists'' mindset, happy to train hard, win fights and keep their mouth shut then they wonder why conor does the numbers he does. You cant just say ''ah McGregor's just an outlier, I can never be that popular!'' you have to think of a way to make yourself popular. Like it or not the sport has changed and in the modern game its not enough to just be able to walk the walk anymore, if you want the numbers you have to be able to talk the talk aswel
finglashoop wrote: » I dont care about ppv sales. I like watching the fights. I dont train bjj. They made a mess of stripping mcgregor and just handing it to Aldo. They should have had him fight someone for the now vacant title. Holding a belt without defending shouldnt happen. Whether by injury or moving to different weight there should be a set time where you have to defend tour belt. Then everyone knows where they stand. Champion and challengers I know mcgregor sells but i want to watch all the fights and fighters. If the UFC want to make back the 4 billion they bought it for they need more than mcgregor and rousey unless they both fight 4 times a year While that type of fighter wont come around too often, and i understand they will and should get treated differently, they wont always be there. The UFC should be using the competition as the selling point. Mcgregor made himself a star. The UFC reap the reward but they have hundreds of fighters who arent stars or even well known. He made diaz a bigger name imo just by virtue of the fact he beat him. Diaz is now a commodity in mma and can now demand things he couldn't before. Mcgregor is the outlier. But the bigger picture is that if a mcgregor ppv sells a million and all the rest sell <300,000 they should be trying to promote the fighters on those lesser selling cards. Something they arent really good at. Why fans worry about purses and ppv points is weird to me. To attract casual fans to buy a ppv minus mcgregor or rousey they need to promote other fighters.
Gamebred wrote: » How much did you lose on Diaz at 202 be honest that ''#easymoney'' shout has made you ever more bitter, let it go your on an anonymous forum seething with rage about the man, all you do is post about him you've no other views other than he and his fans are morons its very strange and worrying.
winston82 wrote: » He discredits himself. He doesn't need my help. We all train bjj around here.
Depp wrote: » to be fair either max or pettis will be interim so he wont be undisputed? also think its bizarre that you use the fact a guy trains bjj to discredit his opinion
winston82 wrote: » Aldo was undisputed champion for 7 years and has the most consecutive title defenses in UFC featherweight history. Remind me of Mcgregors FW legacy again? You should have your own Mcgregor thread that only you can post in. You can update us on how you've been "training UFC" for 5 years and constantly remind us all you've been going to every event since you were 4.
winston82 wrote: » Aldo wasundisputed champion for 7 years and has the most consecutive title defenses in UFC featherweight history. Remind me of Mcgregors FW legacy again? You should have your own Mcgregor thread that only you can post in. You can update us on how you've been "training UFC" for 5 years and constantly remind us all you've been going to every event since you were 4.
