givyjoe wrote: » Agree with all of the above, but the papers do love giving out nicknames to all criminals they can. Think of the Monk, The Viper, The General. 'The Penguin' was even used for one of them years ago.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You know, instead of whining about perceived grievances and inequality, I really wish the likes of Mulally and O'Brien would cop the f**k on about ACTUAL inequality.
me_right_one wrote: » I'm sorry, but that has to be the most convoluted, off-point answer I have come across yet. We already have legal abortion for medical reasons, including mental health reasons.
me_right_one wrote: » So dont continue with it then! Terminate the pregnancy by delivering the baby live, and let it live its life! If it doesnt survive, its sad, but so be it! Why do (some) pro-choicers always want to just "kill the baby"? Why is that always the only acceptable option?
newport2 wrote: » Great post, fully agree. On the above, I don't think UM or LON are actually whining, they are just generating attention for themselves. Attention = Clicks on ads = money. Neither of them are stupid enough to believe all the crap they churn out. Same as Hopkins. She doesn't genuinely believe the opinions she is spouting, she's just saying what gets the biggest reaction and results in the most publicity. It's a pity, but that's what journalism has come to, mainly due to too much free media available.
Going Forward wrote: » That's a nice top, shouldn't attract any attention whether it's worn by a man or a wonan. In the Examiner she bemoans the fact that she's had a lifetime of being told to cover up. And has been variously groped and told to cover up. Seems she wants to be able to go around in her nude just to be offended by the reaction, whatever it is. Naive. Last night on Ray Darcy, the Tinder thing, if the sexes had been reversed there would have been uproar. Offended ladies everywhere.
_Jamie_ wrote: » Considering many people who are pro-choice wouldn't have an abortion themselves (you know, the choice part)
_Jamie_ wrote: » why would you think that abortion was the only acceptable option for people who identify as such? I am pro-choice but I wouldn't actually have an abortion myself unless it was for medical reasons. The foetus was healthy, I would bring it to term.
Nicolas Cage wrote: » Mod: I don't know why some of you have been going on about abortion for days, but this is clearly not what the thread is about. Please get back on topic. There is a Repeal The Eighth thread here which is a catch-all thread for abortion discussion.
me_right_one wrote: » Thats the very definition of pro-life
_Jamie_ wrote: » What are you talking about? A pro-choice stance means that you believe women should have the choice to have an abortion if they wish. My choice would be to not have one. And my choice might be different from another woman's and I believe she should have that choice. That is what pro-choice means. I honestly don't know how you can't understand this. I really don't get it. EDIT: I couldn't not reply to this and will happily take an infraction for doing so. Totally worth it.
DickSwiveller wrote: » what is this rubbish? Nice to see RTE furthering their cultural marxist fanaticism.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You know, instead of whining about perceived grievances and inequality, I really wish the likes of Mulally and O'Brien would cop the f**k on about ACTUAL inequality. Eamon Lillis - staves in the wife's head with a brick, gets 6 years and inherits from same wife Brian Hennessy - raped woman, left her and two children to die in a fire on Christmas Day - seven years in jail and due out soon. Meanwhile Catherine Nevin has done (so far) 16 years and will likely die in jail The Mulhall sisters - still in jail after what ? 10 years ? For helping dispose of the body of a rapist ??? Plus both - and others - given stupid nicknames by the papers to further demonise them. Yeah murder deserves a stretch of AT LEAST 15-20 years. But to give someone 6 and they can inherit whilst someone who didn't even carry out the killing gets 15 ? Something else other than justice is going on here. So, whilst you "feminists" are bleating on about the right to dress like a slapper, give someone a lapdance in public and THEN act like the victim - actual injustices are being carried out on women.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You know, instead of whining about perceived grievances and inequality, I really wish the likes of Mulally and O'Brien would cop the f**k on about ACTUAL inequality. Eamon Lillis - staves in the wife's head with a brick, gets 6 years and inherits from same wifeBrian Hennessy - raped woman, left her and two children to die in a fire on Christmas Day - seven years in jail and due out soon.Meanwhile Catherine Nevin has done (so far) 16 years and will likely die in jail The Mulhall sisters - still in jail after what ? 10 years ? For helping dispose of the body of a rapist ??? Plus both - and others - given stupid nicknames by the papers to further demonise them. Yeah murder deserves a stretch of AT LEAST 15-20 years. But to give someone 6 and they can inherit whilst someone who didn't even carry out the killing gets 15 ? Something else other than justice is going on here. So, whilst you "feminists" are bleating on about the right to dress like a slapper, give someone a lapdance in public and THEN act like the victim - actual injustices are being carried out on women.
Widdershins wrote: » I'm wondering about the Slapper bit. Always wondered what it meant. Someone who makes it too obvious that they enjoy sex, somehow? Someone in revealing clothing? It does bug me slightly that there's no male equivalent. Not that there should be. I'd prefer if there was no such term for either gender, but it suggests to me that we do hold women to a different standard. Unlike Louise I do believe there's such a thing as appropriate dress.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » You know, instead of whining about perceived grievances and inequality, I really wish the likes of Mulally and O'Brien would cop the f**k on about ACTUAL inequality. Eamon Lillis - staves in the wife's head with a brick, gets 6 years and inherits from same wife Brian Hennessy - raped woman, left her and two children to die in a fire on Christmas Day - seven years in jail and due out soon. Meanwhile Catherine Nevin has done (so far) 16 years and will likely die in jail The Mulhall sisters - still in jail after what ? 10 years ? For helping dispose of the body of a rapist ??? Plus both - and others - given stupid nicknames by the papers to further demonise them. Yeah murder deserves a stretch of AT LEAST 15-20 years. But to give someone 6 and they can inherit whilst someone who didn't even carry out the killing gets 15 ? Something else other than justice is going on here.So, whilst you "feminists" are bleating on about the right to dress like a slapper, give someone a lapdance in public and THEN act like the victim - actual injustices are being carried out on women.
me_right_one wrote: » My understanding of a slapper is someone who's overtly promiscuous, and wants everyone to know it. The gay equivalent is someone who's overtly camp and in your face about it. And he male equivalent is someone who overtly thinks he's a "hard man", and goes around letting everyone know what he thinks of himself. Not desirable traits from anyone, male or female.
Widdershins wrote: » In that case if dress in a revealing or sexy way, will people assume I want to let people know I put out? Does it signify that I've been around a bit?
Widdershins wrote: » Fair enough if they're wearing a miniskirt and fishnet stockings at a Christening. Most outfits you'd see in a nightclub are revealing. Presumably nobody thinks the wearers look like slappers?
Widdershins wrote: » In your other two examples the men are usually judged as such based on their behaviour and manner of speaking as much if not more than on their clothing. And the impressions formed are different-camp man is seen as effeminate and dramatic, the hard man is seen as aggressive and obnoxious, but the woman looks like she is indiscriminate about who and how often she has sex with.
me_right_one wrote: » I hate to be the one to break it to ya, but.......:pac: In fairness, most young wans you'd meet in nightclubs would be on the pull themselves, and have indeed been around! I jest, of course! It all depends on the degree to which the revealing items are worn. If they're classy and feminine, grand. But as you say, fishnets and a miniskirt, well lets just say there's a reason your dad will say "YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT DRESSED LIKE THAT!!!" I am convinced women dont know the power they have over men. The hormone that makes you horny (for both men AND women) is testosterone. Now ladies, imagine the horniest you've ever been. In your entire life. Think of the lengths you wouldve gone to to satisfy that urge. And you only produce about one thousandth of the amount of testosterone a man produces. Now imagine having that feeling 24/7, 365. Imagine the level of testosterone it takes to make hair spring out from your face. THAT is what it feels like to be a man. The horniest you've ever been is about the same level of horniess your 12 year old son feels when you bend down to kiss him goodnight and he sees your bra. So ladies, impressions are important. Men are supposed to be manly, but real men can control it. A low caliber man is Ryan Tubrity - looks weak, meek personality, but ok. More like a pet. A good calibre man would be a GAA All-Ireland type man / Jason Statham. A gone-too-far-with-the-manliness is Conor McGregor - all mouth, all show, no integrity, obvious the self-esteem is zero. The same goes for women. Women are supposed to be feminine / sexy. A weakly feminine / sexy woman (in my eyes) would be Louise O'Neill - nothing wrong with her looks, but she'd absolutely melt your head. Thats not sexy. A good fem / sexy woman would be Grainne Seoige - looks great, confident, friendly. And a gone-waaay-into-slapper-territory would be Madonna. Again, you'd just know she had self-esteem issues in there somewhere. So to wrap up my rant: If I was minding my own business, keeping my manliness in check as is my responsibility to do, and I saw an obnoxious, loudmouthed, tattoo covered "hard man" throwing his weight around to make himself feel big, I'd think "what a knob-head". Now lets say someone decks him, you'd think "he was asking for it", wouldn't you! Of course nobody deserves that, but you could definitely understand how it happened. I'm not excusing rapists whatsoever, but the same applies to women. You own the outward image you convey. Of course you have every right to dress how you want, but please apply some common sense. Do so armed with the knowledge that men are turned on by you, to an intensity you will never be able to understand - and that some bad men will forcibly act on their urges.
me_right_one wrote: » I am convinced women dont know the power they have over men. The hormone that makes you horny (for both men AND women) is testosterone. Now ladies, imagine the horniest you've ever been. In your entire life. Think of the lengths you wouldve gone to to satisfy that urge. And you only produce about one thousandth of the amount of testosterone a man produces. Now imagine having that feeling 24/7, 365. Imagine the level of testosterone it takes to make hair spring out from your face. THAT is what it feels like to be a man.
me_right_one wrote: » The horniest you've ever been is about the same level of horniess your 12 year old son feels when you bend down to kiss him goodnight and he sees your bra.
Johngoose wrote: » Was this woman raped,or is she just making a career out of talking about rape?
me_right_one wrote: » I'm not excusing rapists whatsoever, but the same applies to women. You own the outward image you convey. Of course you have every right to dress how you want, but please apply some common sense. Do so armed with the knowledge that men are turned on by you, to an intensity you will never be able to understand - and that some bad men will forcibly act on their urges.
me_right_one wrote: » The hormone that... ....about the same level of horniess your 12 year old son feels when you bend down to kiss him goodnight and he sees your bra. A low caliber man is ... So to wrap up my rant
Zulu wrote: » And a rant indeed it is. Serious question: how old are you? I don't mean to insult, or do you injustice, but I'm guessing teens??
me_right_one wrote: » Now imagine having that feeling 24/7, 365. Imagine the level of testosterone it takes to make hair spring out from your face. THAT is what it feels like to be a man. The horniest you've ever been is about the same level of horniess your 12 year old son feels when you bend down to kiss him goodnight and he sees your bra.