demfad wrote: » cats pyjamas wrote: » When the courts also decide someone is not guilty of rape the stats are used by certain groups to try prove a rape culture. So the courts are always right? I have only your word on that. You will need to elaborate on who is making this claim, exactly what it is based on and why you deem it relevant. The point here is that legislation is based on children's rights and NOT fathers rights or mothers rights. As it should be.
cats pyjamas wrote: » When the courts also decide someone is not guilty of rape the stats are used by certain groups to try prove a rape culture. So the courts are always right?
Widdershins wrote: » ...And as the other poster said teLling boys that learning is for girls isn't an enforcement of any societal construct of masculinity. There's no tradition of boys being discouraged from learning, in wider society.
Deleted User wrote: » Rape, consent, sexuality, masculinity, femininity, these are issues which strike at the core of who we are. People like Louise O Neil want to divide. They aren't interested in equality only hate and anger. I would never identify as feminist because it has become in my eyes a movement where men are seen as evil predators who would rape as soon as look at you, who belittle women and talk crudely about what they would like to do to us. It's a horrible attitude and a very sad one. I'm interested in treating human beings with respect and compassion regardless of their gender. The notion of a rape culture in Ireland is ridiculous.
demfad wrote: » Lets be fair. It is not feminism that seeks to define what masculinity and femininity should be. Our culture defines it. Our culture should be accepting and tolerant enough to allow children to be themselves as feminism does. It is problematic when 'masculinity' in a culture that tells boys that learning is for nerds, or 'femininity' means there is something wrong girls who like sports or to play with boys or whatever. That is wrong and you are barking up the wrong tree to attach the blame to feminism. Feminism addresses this.
osmiumartist wrote: » Well go on then. Pick a number. The only hard number we have (35 per year) obviously doesn't suit your agenda.
demfad wrote: » Nice try! If you cut out the logical progression from a quote, you can always claim the quote has no logical progression. Full quote below.
Pat Mustard wrote: » Of all the possible reasons for a low number of convictions, the reason selected is that 'Irish society does does not believe that a husband can rape his wife'. Evidence to support argument: zero. Conclusion: rape culture. No logical progression. No explanation. Just rape culture, innit? Makes as much sense as 'computer says no'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY
demfad wrote: » Lets be fair. It is not feminism that seeks to define what masculinity and femininity should be. Our culture defines it. Our culture should be accepting and tolerant enough to allow children to be themselves as feminism does. It is problematic when 'masculinity' in a culture that tells boys that learning is for nerds, or 'femininity' means there is something wrong girls who like sports or to play with boys or whatever. That is wrong and you are barking up the wrong tree to attach the blame to feminism. Feminism addresses this. As regards the OP scholarly studies have shown that the motives for domestic violence rape etc, (even family annihilation which is pertinent recently) tend to revolve around a sense of male superiority/entitlement of the perpetrator. If our culture brings us up to believe that boys are better than girls then some boys will grow into men who will be capable of these crimes and such a society will make it difficult for justice to be done. As an example of the latter in the almost 3 decades that it became illegal for a husband to rape his wife there has only been one conviction. Although the box has been ticked in legislation clearly Irish society does not believe that a husband can rape his wife. That is rape culture.
demfad wrote: » As an example of the latter in the almost 3 decades that it became illegal for a husband to rape his wife there has only been one conviction. Although the box has been ticked in legislation clearly Irish society does not believe that a husband can rape his wife. That is rape culture.
demfad wrote: » FortySeven wrote: » Handily skirting the issue that they are fighting for rights that are currently law for children who cannot fight for themselves. It is law. Women are not respecting the law and their children suffer for it. Tell me what Ares women are still struggling for equality in? Dont be ridiculous. It is the courts who uphold the law on behalf of children not women's or men's groups. The court decides what is best for the child and rightly so? What's your problem with this?
FortySeven wrote: » Handily skirting the issue that they are fighting for rights that are currently law for children who cannot fight for themselves. It is law. Women are not respecting the law and their children suffer for it. Tell me what Ares women are still struggling for equality in?
FortySeven wrote: » A child has a right to see both parents. Human rights legislation. Courts award access, yes. Mothers choose not to allow this to happen. Now go and compare mothers punished for this by the courts and fathers not paying maintenence. I'll give you a clue. One is zero, the other fills our prison system. Please don't pretend that you are not well aware of this fact and stop wasting my time. I'm out. Due to mod warning earlier. Please do not equate this as a win, if I wasn't a step away from a permaban I would devote the rest of my day to wiping the floor with you.
"me_right_one wrote: Murders sometimes happen in Ireland. Do we have a murder "culture"? Robberies sometimes happen in Ireland. Do we have a thieving "culture"? People sometimes donate their organs to others, eg. Joe Brolly. Do we have an organ sharing "culture"? The answer is obviously no, and you know it.
midlandsmissus wrote: » I have a Master's degree. A little poster I have never met tells me I am unintelligent. Cry me a river. Where are all the ****s I give for this. Oh there they are - none! Have a nice day fellows.
Widdershins wrote: » I'd worry about their children! I was a tomboy too, a little bit less so now but I probably don't like most of what your friend must think I'm supposed to.
Zulu wrote: » I suspect that the Hillary message of: "If you don't vote for me, you are not a feminist" backfired. Royally. People aren't stupid, and trying to back them into a corner with their vote isn't welcome. This message was aimed at educated women, who, lets face it, understand that it's fu(kin sexist. You're feminist, ergo you vote for me because I'm a woman. That's bound to rile people, especially when it's a message that coming along with the email scandal, the Bernie Sanders shenanigans, and all the dirt that was being dug up about her by the otherside. Educated women saw through the bs and voted the way they saw fit. I can't say I agree with their candidate, but that's their choice (the irony that some feminists don't respect their opinion/vote isn't lost on me). Now, lets see what comes out of the ashes, and lets all hope he isn't in the mood to launch a nuke.
Mortpourvelo wrote: » Yeah they'd read it somewhere because I'm not a typical "girl"!!! I didn't want to look at 143 pictures of a wedding dress and preferred to talk about the win over the All Blacks. "You don't like anything you're meant to, you must be gender fluid". The world is slightly messed up!!!
Widdershins wrote: » Someone actually informed you you are gender fluid? I don't know what to say to that. A little knowledge s a dangerous thing?
Mortpourvelo wrote: » I was told the other day I was "gender fluid" and should complain that there's no such box to tick on a form!!!! .
Walter H Price wrote: » Kinda sad isn't it , the Snow Flake generation , what a sham ....... Stop labeling people , stop jumping to accuse people of being XYZ its pretty irksom to be honest.
demfad wrote: » Dont be ridiculous. It is the courts who uphold the law on behalf of children not women's or men's groups. The court decides what is best for the child and rightly so? What's your problem with this?
midlandsmissus wrote: » Someone called me and other feminists a feminazi. I in response called them a mannazi. You in response turned on me. Warped male bullying logic that means f all to me. F all. Bullying ways got you guys so far. No more guys, no more.
Deleted User wrote: » You seem very angry and defensive. Good for you that you'd vote Le Pen. That just says to me your racism trumps (hur hur) your sexism. Not something to fist pump about.
midlandsmissus wrote: » Are you going to call Fathers4justice, whom storm TV shows in England and Ireland to promote men's rights -mannazis? Deluded,crazy mannazis! Lol. That makes me feel big and powerful to say that. Anytime I here someone saying the word Feminazi, it says reams more about who you are, than anything else ever does.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » well then it is your responsibility as a parent to tell him otherwise.
FortySeven wrote: » They are fighting for children's rights to see both parents. Rights that are enshrined in law but not respected largely by one gender. They get called plenty. Sexist, bullies, mysogynistic, retarded, dangerous etc. Etc.
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