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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

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murpho999

niallo27 wrote: »

The big thing to take from this is how average city look. Nobody to fear in this league

I would argue that Liverpool have made the best start of any teams when you look at the fixtures we had. Away to Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea. 7 points from that. The only blip is Burnley.

Other teams have their praises sung but were winning against nobodies and then struggle when they face a decent team.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Liverpool v Ipswich Town (away) in the Premier League Cup. 1 PM KO

#LFC U23s lineup vs Ipswich Town: Kelleher, Arnold, Randall, Ilori, Sakho, Stewart, Wilson, Chirivella, Ings, Ejaria, Woodburn

Very strong line up and Ings has just scored, it's not on the tellybox anywhere

Ended 3-0 with a Dings hat-trick, at under 23 level he is banging them in now probably what he'll have to settle for this season bar some cup games. Wilson and Ejaria with two assists I think.

osnola ibax

was nice to win yesterday after playing poorly, we usually end up losing those games although we did get a little lucky. Van Der Hoorn should have equalised. Sounds like Klopp gave the lads (dare I say it) the hair dryer treatment.

Spurs could really challenge for the title as well. I always feel that the title is City's to lose, especially now that Pep is there.

Would be great to mount a challenge again this season after coming so damn close in 2014.

larrymiller

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ended 3-0 with a Dings hat-trick, at under 23 level he is banging them in now probably what he'll have to settle for this season bar some cup games. Wilson and Ejaria with two assists I think.

Can't see home with us after this season to good for reserves and not going to get into our team unless a lot of injuries

corwill

osnola ibax wrote: »

Van Der Hoorn should have equalised.

Anyone else think VdH was a shade lucky to finish that match? Fierce free with the elbows and forearms.

cj maxx

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ended 3-0 with a Dings hat-trick, at under 23 level he is banging them in now probably what he'll have to settle for this season bar some cup games. Wilson and Ejaria with two assists I think.

I can't remember much about him now but would he not be a klopp type player when he regains full fitness . Hard working terrier type ?

K-9

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I want a spurs win.
3pts dropped if city lose. We are going for title .

Exactly, besides our selfish interest it makes the league far more exciting.

We'll see if we are good enough.

As for goals conceded, having a decent defence is a big help, I'd have thought that self evident! Generally you'd need one of the best defences in the league to win it. Until I see evidence a dodgy back 4 can win it...

rob316

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ended 3-0 with a Dings hat-trick, at under 23 level he is banging them in now probably what he'll have to settle for this season bar some cup games. Wilson and Ejaria with two assists I think.

great attitude deserves to be on the bench for the next game.

BorneTobyWilde

Pepsi Granola might do a Klopp at half time and inspire a comeback .

murpho999

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Bit early to be talking about titles, surely?

If yesterday proved anything, it's that this time is still a bit inconcsistant for a title challenge, and I think it'll be a while before even Klopp sorts that out.

How are we inconsistent with 7 games played, Won 5 drew 1 and lost 1.

Judge them on results not incidents within games of halves.

No team plays at 100% in every game.

For me yesterday was our most pleasing result in years as it's the first time I've seen us a grind out a win since we beat Fulham in our title run in in 13/14.

kingshankly

Spurs win 2-1 so we can be second in the table for the next two weeks

martyos121

Point at WHL is starting to look like a really good result in hindsight now.

Grayditch

kingshankly wrote: »

Spurs win 2-1 so we can be second in the table for the next two weeks

I don't know about that.

murpho999

kingshankly wrote: »

Spurs win 2-1 so we can be second in the table for the next two weeks

If Spurs win they will be a point ahead of Liverpool.

Also, if Arsenal win they will go ahead as well so we'll most likely be 4th today.

It's fine, at this stage of the season, we're in the mix.

5starpool

murpho999 wrote: »

If Spurs win they will be a point ahead of Liverpool.

Also, if Arsenal win they will go ahead as well so we'll most likely be 4th today.

It's fine, at this stage of the season, we're in the mix.

Ya, I don't think there is one person here who at the start of the season would have said no to being 4th after 7 games only 2 points off the lead.

Agent Coulson

Five away games in the first seven and only two points off first that's a really great start to the season and joint top goal scorers.

mormank

Augeo wrote: »

So having the best defence would have to be considered helpful in winning the league

Why pick the last 6 years btw?

Oh of course it would be massively helpful. We could go unbeaten for a season with a better defence.

Wouldn't guarantee us winning the league tho.
I didn't choose the last 6 years I simply started checking the tables of the last few seasons and after getting to 6 and noticing 3 of the best defences won it and 3 didn't I felt that was enough to justify carrying on, I was just too lazy to continue checking but I feel that's a big enough sample size!

mormank

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I want a spurs win.
3pts dropped if city lose. We are going for title .

Oh of course. But that is why we wanted a draw is it not, so 2 of our title rivals would drop points and not just 1. Still, I'm very happy with a Spurs win, hopefully city can have a bit of a wobble now after the international break. They may have won 6 out of 6 in the PL before today but I watched all of those games and they were lucky to escape with victories in a couple of them imo. Also I very much look forward to our meetings with city this season, should be great games.

5starpool

Whether having the best defence would help us win the league or not is irrelevant since we aren't going to have the best defence or anywhere close to it.

Hopefully we will have the best attack or close to that though. I reckon we'll score 80+ goals this season and if we do we should get top 4. Huge long way to go though of course but in our 9 games (including cup) this season, we have only played poorly for 1 full games, and 2 half games (first half vs Arsenal wasn't good). I'm delighted with things, and once again curse the stupid fúcking international break.

Osmosis Jones

Was just checking the stats on fantasy football and noticed that Henderson has over 100 more passes and 100 more touches than any other player in the league this season.

BorneTobyWilde

Spurs are a real threat for title. The are strong.

mormank

murpho999 wrote: »

I would argue that Liverpool have made the best start of any teams when you look at the fixtures we had. Away to Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea. 7 points from that. The only blip is Burnley.

Other teams have their praises sung but were winning against nobodies and then struggle when they face a decent team.

We are the exact opposite, we will annihilate the bigger teams but struggle against the smaller teams. I would be very confident that we will be top of the "mini top 4/6 league table" that they often show of how the big teams did against eachother. If we can just learn to beat the smaller more consistently the title is ours to lose.

Fwiw as a young fella I used to always think at the start of the season that Liverpool would win the title. After many years of being slagged about this and losing many bets with friends by about the age of 12 I had totally given up hope that we would ever win a title and I have been a football cynic ever since. 13/14 was the first season where I let myself believe we would win it, but only around April time for a week or two and sure enough I was reminded why to never get my hopes up, as it is the hope that will kill you. With Klopp in charge it's different, my Utd supporting friends and City etc have a different tone about them now when talking about Liverpool, there is a genuine fear in their voices as they discuss our chances. Something I have never experienced before tbh, it's kinda nice. Klopp lets me believe again, in public without being mocked, for the first time since I was a wide eyed 12 year old fool. :pac:

For me lads the difference between Klopp and previous managers is I would be surprised if we won the league this season but I would be absolutely shocked if Klopp left this football without winning the title at least once. And for someone who has never experienced a title win that is a very reassuring thought. I've waited well over 20 years, I can survive another few.

Bowlardo

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Spurs are a real threat for title. The are strong.

I don't think they are. Europe will play havoc with them and they will suffer through injuries. Probably top 4 certainties but not title challengers

citytillidie

MD1990 wrote: »

Benteke takes points off Everton. Allen takes points off Man Utd. Great work from our ex players.

I say we were all a bit like this

5starpool

Bowlardo wrote: »

I don't think they are. Europe will play havoc with them and they will suffer through injuries. Probably top 4 certainties but not title challengers

I think they will be annoyingly resilient. Almost no one is top 4 certainties at this stage. Chelsea and Utd haven't been great overall, but they have are only a few points back. There are 6 very strong squads competing at the top end this season.

BorneTobyWilde

Bowlardo wrote: »

I don't think they are. Europe will play havoc with them and they will suffer through injuries. Probably top 4 certainties but not title challengers

It's their goals scored to goals conceded ratio that worries me. They just rarely lose a game.
Lost 6 of last 45 league games.

[Deleted User]

mormank wrote: »

........ lets me believe again, in public without being mocked, for the first time since I was a wide eyed 12 year old fool. :pac:

...

I was there with Rafa & Rodgers, briefly admittedly.

mosstin

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

It's their goals scored to goals conceded ratio that worries me. They just rarely lose a game.
Lost 6 of last 45 league games.

Best defence in the league, great manager, been involved in something of a title challenge already last season and will be all the better for the experience. I think Spurs are definite title challengers.

BorneTobyWilde

BALOTELLI SCORES A CRACKER TO WIN GAME

Osmosis Jones

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

BALOTELLI SCORES A CRACKER TO WIN GAME

The other one that's not Shelvey that got away.