Grandeeod wrote: » Maybe next year. The launch appears to be focused on inbound from Kildare during morning peak and outbound during evening peak. It takes CIE a lot longer to realise the potential.....because they can't get enough money from the Government apparently.
XPS_Zero wrote: » Currently I have to go to CC and take a packed wet uncomfortable bus winding and swerving for over an hour to get to Adamstown OR go DART-Luas-Heuston-Adamstown. When this is done can I just swap trains in GCD and go str8 to Adamstown? Also would the local DART station give you a Killiney to Adamstown return? Now and when PPT is open, and would one now inc Luas transfer? I find trains way more comfortable than the bus and just swapping in GCD would be ideal especially with winter coming up
ClovenHoof wrote: » Back on topic: any dates on the PPT start up announced yet?
Infini2 wrote: » Kinda a waste of a line that its just left like that unfortunately. All it would take is planning some decent sized towns along the line and it could be made viable too expecially with the price of housing so high in Dublin. Biggest kicker is most of that is a double track line as well if im not mistaken. Looked at the map there as well you got Moate disconnected from the rail network yet theres a decent sized town there. All this talk of building more houses and such but theres places like that that could be seriously expanded and made viable with joined up thinking but yet nothing happens.
MrMorooka wrote: » If there is any proof or info on this history of CIE management mindset,
GM228 wrote: » Regular scheduled services ceased in 1987. Freight continued until mid 90s. A few specials operated over the line in the late 80s and early 90s and loco hauled PWD trains continued to use the line until 2001. Last movement over the line was about 6 years ago when the annual inspection car run ceased.
L1011 wrote: » Paddico wrote: » So when was the last time the train ran on that line between Mullingar and Athlone. I seem to remember using tha route around 92 and it had a stop in Moate 1980s.
Paddico wrote: » So when was the last time the train ran on that line between Mullingar and Athlone. I seem to remember using tha route around 92 and it had a stop in Moate
ClovenHoof wrote: » L1011 wrote: » I'm amazed there wasn't a free bus addon brought in when trains to Galway/Wesport etc started being moved to Heuston from Connolly - 40 years ago or so? It was designed to kill these services. CIEs assumption that there would eventually be no rail services beyond Athlone was their aspiration at the time. The closing of the Mullingar to Athlone section was stage one of eventually having no rails west of the Shannon. There is an RTE documentary about train drivers in Ireland from the early 80s and at the end you see a CIE train driver fishing and he makes the comment that 'I see no future for either the rail system or the country as a whole.' The negativity was astounding. Literally unable to comprehend that things can change. As late as 1998, Irish Rail was still working towards this model. CIE/Irish Rail are always culturally trapped in their current thinking and can't see social or economic projections beyond tea time, let alone population and other projections into the future.
L1011 wrote: » I'm amazed there wasn't a free bus addon brought in when trains to Galway/Wesport etc started being moved to Heuston from Connolly - 40 years ago or so?
ClovenHoof wrote: » It was designed to kill these services. CIEs assumption that there would eventually be no rail services beyond Athlone was their aspiration at the time. As late as 1998, Irish Rail was still working towards this model. CIE/Irish Rail are always culturally trapped in their current thinking and can't see social or economic projections beyond tea time, let alone population and other projections into the future.
lxflyer wrote: » Connolly, Tara Street and Pearse are all treated as one station already for ticketing purposes - city centre.
IE 222 wrote: » The sensible thing to do is to remove each cc station as a pricing point and price them all as one dublin city centre. Anything between heuston - connelly - GCD - Point Depot. Increase fairs by 50c per journey. Be hard to integrate DB into such plans.
Also I'm curious people refer to special trains going thru the tunnel over the years. I'm already familiar with the blizzard Eucharistic Congresd ones that went from like Cobh to Sydney Parade but what of the GAA ones? Did they take intercity trains from the west to Connoly for matches? Why'd they stop doing thst?
XPS_Zero wrote: » I see commuter and ICR sets parked at GCD on and off at the designated platform for the tunnel, are they sing tested going through it or something? I thought it was already used for swapping empty sets? Also I'm curious people refer to special trains going thru the tunnel over the years. I'm already familiar with the blizzard Eucharistic Congresd ones that went from like Cobh to Sydney Parade but what of the GAA ones? Did they take intercity trains from the west to Connoly for matches? Why'd they stop doing thst?
tabbey wrote: » In most capital cities, mainline termini are grouped together for fare purposes, but perhaps that is easy for long distance journeys, like Birmingham to London: Euston, Marylebone or Paddington, and more anomolous for short trips.
lxflyer wrote: » The ticketing and fares situation have yet to be disclosed, but I'd imagine that given you have to pay extra for LUAS/bus to the city centre, that Connolly/Tara St/Pearse will be a separate fare zone. But that's purely a guess.
Del.Monte wrote: » It should be built into the ticket price. Translink, and NIR before them, have done this for years for the bus from Belfast Central to the City Centre. Why should the passenger be penalised for the remote location of Heuston?
Vic_08 wrote: » Why? It is an extra journey. Should all fare to Heuston have been priced to include the bus/luas extension? In that case anyone only going to/from Heuston is paying for an additional journey they are not making.
