pegasus1 wrote: » Damien, not being cheeky get a glass out of the cabinet and fill it...then start thinking that way..be optimistic...it will happen one way or another...if the NBP fails there would be huge protests...
damienirel wrote: » Sigh - Eir are a private company you can protest all you like they don't care. NBP - different story - they have obligations to the public. This is why I think Eir will sit on it's hands for a while as far as ftth and blue lines are concerned. Can you not see that being a very likely possibility? I think it's going to get delayed totally on the basis of the chances of missing out on subsidies. I'm only assuming.
pegasus1 wrote: » So with your thinking, why complete the first 100,000 and the completion of the FTTC ?
damienirel wrote: » FTTC is completely different - highly profitable areas that Eir want and need as it's customer base. Don't mix the 2 up they are different business models.
pegasus1 wrote: » Again why complete the 1st 100,000.......Of FTTH.?
pegasus1 wrote: » First off they will be running 600km of on the pole fibre a month, that 20 km per day inc weekends get out the map again and calculate the total blueline run in dunshaughlin...;) then I am sure when they start the installing the fibre they will finish it before moving on.. I would say you could order straight away as it would get the coil of fibre installed and not hanging on a pole waiting for some ijit to come along and cut it...Exchange will have been completed, didn't someone put a post up saying all the stuff is installed and waiting in most if not all exchanges.. Some here stated from talking to an engineer that where the blueline stops the fibre stops, ie. if a house's driveway is at the end of a blue line, it will get done.. It will be installed, where its easiest for them...its up to you to connect into it...
marno21 wrote: » There are posts every day on here of people seeing workers out laying fibre cables and working in ducts etc. One week in July open eir enabled 61 cabinets, this week they enabled 5, next week there are zero exchange cabinets planned to be enabled for the first time in well over a year. The people involved in the FTTC rollout haven't been laid off. They will be reassigned to the FTTH rollout. Open eir have a massive amount of people involved at the minute and there is absolutely no point in wasting them. They will have monopolies pretty much everywhere they go with the FTTH rollout so they may as well get the ball rolling ASAP. For example, the Headford exchange in Co. Kerry. Currently has no DSL services, will never be serviced by UPC. Only has fixed wireless and mobile broadband options at present, which are brutal in most parts of the exchange footprint. Eir are going servicing 740 homes here, and should have 100% uptake in those interested in using broadband services. The more they delay it, the more revenue they are missing out on.
yqtwqxqm wrote: » What if it runs on the opposite side of the road to you. Will it be like FTTC in those cases and only allow the people on the one side of the road to get it.
Gonzo wrote: » the cable/fibre will serve both sides of the road in the same way that a regular phone line does. Once the fiber passes your gateway either on a pole or a duct, you will be able to get FTTH. FTTC was patchy as it relied on your phone line being connected to the nearest cabinet, houses beside each other sometimes were a mix between connected to cabinet and directly fed by the exchange. FTTH doesn't work that way. eVDSL solved this issue to an extent but doesnt work as far as FTTC. FTTH also offers full speeds, its not a distance sensitive technology like FTTC/DSL.
legocrazy505 wrote: » There's still a decent amount of cabinets to be done...like our one waiting to serve 150+ houses. Wouldn't say they are fully focused on FTTH yet but they are definitely upping their game now by the looks of this thread. About time too because the rural broadband rural rollout has been long overdue.
marno21 wrote: » For example in Cork, there are 6 exchange cabs left. One is within 1km of Cobh, one is within 1km of Mallow, one is within 1km of Clonakity and the other three are bunched together near Cork Airport.
garroff wrote: » Timber cut and a shed load of poles erected in my area in last month. Question: what kind of speed will be offered when FTTH is connected?
damienirel wrote: » Have a look at eir extreme website. Vodafone and digiweb and probably a few others are selling it too.
RobertFoster wrote: » I thought Vodafone weren't going to be resellers of the Eir FTTH service because they have SIRO?
Johnboy1951 wrote: » One reason could be they want top prove they are capable of doing a roll out in good time, so they have a better chance at the whole of the NPB. Delaying the second stage of the blue lines would not impact on that.
pegasus1 wrote: » In that case Siro have no chance, and what of Enet with no track record if installations here...
damienirel wrote: » The reason they want to finish the FTTC first is fairly obvious no?? It's far more cost efficient. Large amount of subscribers can be upgraded to a faster connection fairly effortlessly. A FTTH install is expensive no matter what way you look at it - it's a once off connection to a home. If I ran Eir I'd want to do all the FTTC installs first.
guil wrote: » Why bother with FTTC if they can go straight to FTTH?
damienirel wrote: » FTTC is far cheaper to install on a per install basis.
guil wrote: » It's far more expensive to run and maintain after that. I'd imagine Eir want to go total FTTH eventually so it would make sense if some areas on a blue line don't have FTTC then go straight to FTTH.
damienirel wrote: » hoping to see a blast of installs soon!! hope these exchange areas marked winter 2016 aren't let slide. come on eir! I want my fibre!
MMFITWGDV wrote: » Don't forget that the F in FTTC is Fibre. They've run 24 strands of fibre to each FTTC cab. 4 of them are allocated to VDSL, the remaining 20 will be used to provide for the blue lines (and presumably NBP if they win). They've also, presumably, purchased the VDSL gear for the cabs, so they might as well use it for now and get some money from subs.
damienirel wrote: » I thought that was the case(20 will be used to provide for the blue lines) - but somebody on here told me that all blue lines are provided from exchange directly.
jd wrote: » That 20 will run from exchange out to customers, vdsl cab won't be used for ftth at all.
