ShineOn7 wrote: » Meanwhile in Ireland: Gobshíte Gardai standing at checkpoints saying "careful now" From the HSE to the Guards and much more in between; Covid is showing Ireland's serious cracks that have been ignored for at least 20 years now
DaSilva wrote: » And yet Spain keep posting record numbers also, doesn't look like they are having much success either. When are we going to cop on that what we are doing isn't working
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » The situation is doing downhill rapidly in Spainhttps://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1319362578695385088 And let's not forget Francehttps://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1319341388845252612 Italy also surging in hospitalisation, ICU occupations and sadly deaths now too. Germany is also in a precarious place.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Isn't Spain's numbers being driven by Madrid and other badly affected areas? The Valencia area and the Canary Islands both have less than 1% positivity rate
bb1234567 wrote: » You can't do thatKermit! :mad: Even though lots of people post those BNO quotes everyday you're gonna get a lot of **** for it because it's you :mad:
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » What you are seeing effectively is exactly the same as South America except in Europe. It's on that scale.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Eeesh @ those figures. Crazy stats What's there to really prevent catastrophic numbers like that here? Level 5 and rosary beads?
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » The situation is doing downhill rapidly in Spainhttps://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1319362578695385088
JustAThought wrote: » Perhaps if the likes of major beauty brands that sell lipsticks and cosmetics were not telling their staff to come into work and use HSE signs in their cars saying they were essential workers we might have a little less of a catastrophe on our hands. All businesses are not equal in this - not are they playing fair.
For anyone interested, I did a post on how some other countries are doing. Basically, everywhere is under some degree of pressure. Some of this may be slightly out of date so sorry about that:Sweden: Sweden extends its temporary entry ban until December 22 108,900 people have tested positive for Coronavirus in Sweden, with a total of 5,930 deaths. The death rate per-capita, during last week, was 58.6 per 100,000 people. The country's public health agency is working with regional authorities who will now be able to enforce new restrictions from Monday. The latest move follows the country's sixth consecutive rise in weekly new cases since the week commencing August 31, after flattening out for months, according to data compiled by the World Health Organization. Wales: Wales is imposed a "firebreak" lockdown for 17 days from 6pm on Friday, the Welsh government has announced. The new coronavirus lockdown will take Wales back to the restrictions introduced in March, with most businesses shutting, and people being told to stay at home and work from home where possible. First Minister Mark Drakeford said the introduction of a new lockdown would deliver a "short, sharp shock". France: French president Emmanuel Macron said he had no choice but to extend a curfew to more than two-thirds of the population after official figures showed the country had now surpassed more than one million coronavirus cases. 42,032 positive COVID-19 cases was recorded in 24 hours on Friday, bringing the total to 1,041,075 confirmed cases since the start of the epidemic in March, according to official health ministry figures. "It is too early today to say whether we are moving towards local or wider reconfinements", he added because we have to wait "until the middle of next week [to have] a clearer vision of the impact of the measures." He also indicated the country would have to live with the virus "at best until the summer of 2021". Belgium: Frank Vandenbroucke says situation in parts of country is ‘most dangerous in all of Europe’ 600 hospital admissions yesterday. Deaths up to 74 on Friday, was only 6 deaths 3 weeks ago. And reported that 20% of hospital workers are sick or too exhausted to show up with all non-urgent surgery cancelled. For four weeks since Monday, all bars and restaurants are closed. The sale of alcohol is banned after 8pm and a curfew is imposed between midnight and 5am. The Netherlands: Dutch PM orders 'partial lockdown', all bars and cafes to close. All bars, cafes and restaurants to close, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has said. After months of refusing to make the wearing of masks compulsory, Mr Rutte finally ordered that non-medical face coverings must also be worn in all indoor spaces by people aged over 13. The sale of alcohol will also be banned after 8pm in a bid to reduce the social contacts that have led to the rise in Covid-19 cases, Mr Rutte said of the steps that will take effect tomorrow (report from 13/10). Italy: In Italy, which was the initial epicentre of Europe’s outbreak in spring, fresh curbs including earlier closures for bars and restaurants and a push to increase working from home were also announced. “We cannot waste time,” Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said, also flagging bans on amateur team sports and local festivals. But Italian mayors can close public squares and other gathering places after 9pm, permitting access only to reach homes or businesses. Poland: Poland will convert Warsaw stadium into temporary COVID-19 hospital. The 58,500-capacity stadium will have room for 500 patients and will be equipped with oxygen therapy, government spokesperson Piotr Muller said on Monday. Poland is now witnessing an exponential surge of coronavirus infections, after experiencing very low rates of infection in the spring compared to western European countries. Around half the country is now designated as a coronavirus “red zone”. Polish president Andrzej Duda tests positive for Covid-19 Spain Spain has declared a national state of emergency and imposed a night-time curfew in an effort to help control a new spike in Covid-19 infections. Under the emergency measures, local authorities can also ban travel between regions. The new measures announced include a limit on public and private gatherings of different households to a maximum of six people. The same level of emergency was introduced during the first wave of the pandemic in April. Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said he would ask parliament to extend the new rules, initially in force for 15 days, to six months. Italy Italy is shutting cinemas, swimming pools and gyms from Monday. Bars, restaurants and ice-cream stands will have to close by 18:00, but shops and the majority of businesses will remain operating. "We think that we will suffer a bit this month but by gritting our teeth with these restrictions, we'll be able to breathe again in December," Mr Conte told a news conference on Sunday. Czech Republic New lockdowns came into force this weekend, 12,472 new Covid cases were reported for Saturday - the country's highest daily tally for a weekend day. The number of people who have died while infected with the coronavirus in the Czech Republic has doubled to 2,047 in two weeks, Health Ministry data showed on Saturday. The fight against the resurgence of the epidemic suffered a setback on Friday when prime minister Andrej Babis moved to sack his health minister for violating government's lockdown. The president has yet to decide on the minister's fate.
Week 43 - 7,194 Week 44 - 4,940 (This Week)
A list of previous weeks (Mon-Sun) for anyone interested:A graph of weekly cases.Week 11 - 340 Week 12 - 837 Week 13 - 1,709 (Lockdown) Week 14 - 2,379 Week 15 - 3,043 Week 16 - 4,033 Week 17 - 4,011 Week 18 - 2,244 Week 19 - 1,490 Week 20 - 1,116 Week 21 - 527 (Phase 1) Week 22 - 379 Week 23 - 249 Week 24 - 112 (Phase 2) Week 25 - 97 Week 26 - 67 Week 27 - 94 (Phase 3) Week 28 - 127 Week 29 - 143 Week 30 - 122 Week 31 - 286 Week 32 - 550 Week 33 - 557 Week 34 - 732 Week 35 - 807 Week 36 - 921 Week 37 - 1,314 Week 38 - 1,982 (Dublin Level 3: 18/09) Week 39 - 2,084 (Donegal Level 3: 25/09) Week 40 - 3,070 Week 41 - 4,510 (National Level 3: 07/10) Week 42 - 7,495 (Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan Level 4: 15/10) Week 43 - 7,194 Week 44 - 4,940 (This Week) A list of previous months for anyone interested:April - 14,176 May - 4406 June - 560 July - 639 August - 2,720 September - 7,430 October (So far) - 26,028 And a graph.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Some day there'll be poems written about Week 26Week 11 - 340 Week 12 - 837 Week 13 - 1,709 (Lockdown) Week 14 - 2,379 Week 15 - 3,043 Week 16 - 4,033 Week 17 - 4,011 Week 18 - 2,244 Week 19 - 1,490 Week 20 - 1,116 Week 21 - 527 (Phase 1) Week 22 - 379 Week 23 - 249 Week 24 - 112 (Phase 2) Week 25 - 97 Week 26 - 67 Week 27 - 94 (Phase 3) Week 28 - 127 Week 29 - 143 Week 30 - 122 Week 31 - 286 Week 32 - 550 Week 33 - 557 Week 34 - 732 Week 35 - 807 Week 36 - 921 Week 37 - 1,314 Week 38 - 1,982 Week 39 - 2,084 Week 40 - 3,070 (This Week)
ShineOn7 wrote: » Static Jak on Reddit Ireland This bit stands outBut isn't this largely down to the Track and Trace system completely falling apart?
ShineOn7 wrote: » Is there any modelling or a authoritative study on past pandemics that says this second wave will be the roughest in terms of cases etc?
Thats me wrote: » From what i heard, typycally there are 3 waves with the second wave is strongest one. Third wave will come late spring or beginning of summer. Past the third wave virus expected to transform to mild kind of infection which will not harm enybody :rolleyes:
funnydoggy wrote: » Where did you hear this?
Deleted User wrote: » The last two weeks have had more Call 3's - call to inform people they are close contacts and to arrange test, than any previous weeks
ShineOn7 wrote: » My coffee hasn't kicked yet and I haven't had much sleep, but I'm taking that to mean the case numbers we are now getting to be accurate?
daretodream wrote: » So if this is 2nd Wave, will there be another lockdown if/when 3rd Wave hits and when is this expected, weeks after current restrictions are lifted in early 2021?
Covid-19: ICU admissions and deaths down to a fraction of first wave
Hospitalisations, intensive care admissions and deaths due to Covid-19 are running at a fraction of the level seen during the first wave of the pandemic, according to data released by the Central Statistics Office (CSO).The hospitalisation rate has fallen from 192 per 1,000 cases in March to a provisional figure of 32 last month. The rate of admission to intensive care units, which was 27 per 1,000 in March, was five per 1,000 in September and three per 1,000 last month. The age profile of cases in the current wave has been much lower than in the first. The data show that more than 93 per cent of those who have died with Covid-19 in the State had an underlying condition. The CSO said that, in all, 1,679 people with Covid-19 had died at the end of last month, with a further 229 deaths having a probable link to the virus. It said 11 healthcare workers with Covid-19 have died, higher than the eight recorded by the HSE.
No one has been able to eradicate the virus. We must minimise the impact of the virus while living with it (and we have been very successful to date). It has to play out and should do, like so many other epidemics, by the end of the third wave, which in Ireland should be before next summer.BTW I'm speaking as an immunology grad whose final year thesis was on the epidemiology of airborne disease.
So in terms of weekly numbers, this time last week we had 1,297 cases. This week, we're currently at 1,630. So if this trend continues we've not only hit a wall but gone backwards. I brought this up a few days back but I believe that if most stores and businesses are open due to finding ways to be "essential" along with schools etc, then most people are travelling and continuing the spread of the virus. Mix that with just the general fatigue of all this and this isn't even slightly surprising. This is Level 5 in name only. The reproduction number for Covid-19 has increased from an estimate of 0.6 last week to a figure of between 0.7 and 0.9, Prof Philip Nolan has said. He said this is a 'significant cause for concern' 7-day average: 420.86 (Previous 7 days: 381.86)
ShineOn7 wrote: » Static Jak on Reddit Ireland making sense of the numbers as always
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