TUS Programme

Has anyone had a probation document to fill out for the Tús scheme?

Just wondering about anyone who has issues with the (enforced nature) of the scheme - did you voice these concerns on the probation document or just stick to general comments about the work you've been doing?

There is also a space on the form for supervisor comments - I don't think mine will have much good to say about me!

Fred Swanson

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I have just read about the appalling way in which headlights is currently being treated on a CE Scheme - see: http://www.askaboutmoney.com/showthread.php?t=181845

It is quite possible that there is a person in FAS who's job it is, is to monitor what is being said about the organisation, good and bad. I know this because when I was a media monitor, working for a media monitoring company, we frequently monitored on behalf of such organisations, and reported daily, weekly or monthly, depending on the amount of media coverage that they were receiving.

Why are FAS tolerating such appalling bad press???

CarrieLee,

We rarely do, but there's no reason why you can't ask to read this report since it is specifically about you - AFTER the supervisor has completed their section - Freedom of Information and all that. Oh, and make your request when you return said document. Then the supervisor will be made aware that their comments will be open to scrutiny, might make them more cautious about the comments, especially if they feel you will challenge them, if you believe them to be inaccurate.

anyone know how long it takes them to sort tax on tus scheme being on emergency tax now for 2 months, rang the tax office 3 times no change,
they keep telling me to get on to the TUS crew, tus crew just say ring the tax office again

toadettee

toadettee wrote: »

i havent heard back from my interview place whether i have to go tomorrow or not. how hard is it to read an email and write a reply... maybe ill ask for their job as they are clearly incompetent. i can understand the negativity at this scheme as it hasnt exactly been lighting my world on fire so far.

So I heard back yesterday, they rang asking if I wanted to work in a charity shop. Ah no thanks. Then got another phonecall, sales and admin for a company, I am a web designer but have agreed to go for the interview, oh and back to education is deemed a payment that can make you eligible for it, apparently,even though I was working part time and paying stamps until March this year. Whole scheme makes no sense really. If I was working every weekend how is this deemed unemployed ??

toadettee wrote: »

So I heard back yesterday, they rang asking if I wanted to work in a charity shop. Ah no thanks. Then got another phonecall, sales and admin for a company, I am a web designer but have agreed to go for the interview, oh and back to education is deemed a payment that can make you eligible for it, apparently,even though I was working part time and paying stamps until March this year. Whole scheme makes no sense really. If I was working every weekend how is this deemed unemployed ??

they want you off the numbers, no other reason,

jos22 wrote: »

anyone know how long it takes them to sort tax on tus scheme being on emergency tax now for 2 months, rang the tax office 3 times no change,
they keep telling me to get on to the TUS crew, tus crew just say ring the tax office again

At this stage what I would recommend is that you get your employers RSI number, go into the tax office yourself and give them your employers RSI No. They will also want your RSI number and you also need to bring with a letter from your TUS supervisior that you are now employed by "such & such a group/organisation / whatever" as a TUS worker.

The tax office will then send a new tax cert to your new TUS employer and a copy to you. Your new tax code will then be applied to your wages, y
our emergency tax will be repaid to you by your TUS employer and everything should be sorted.

Good luck.

dubscribe wrote: »

At this stage what I would recommend is that you get your employers RSI number, go into the tax office yourself and give them your employers RSI No. They will also want your RSI number and you also need to bring with a letter from your TUS supervisior that you are now employed by "such & such a group/organisation / whatever" as a TUS worker.

The tax office will then send a new tax cert to your new TUS employer and a copy to you. Your new tax code will then be applied to your wages, y
our emergency tax will be repaid to you by your TUS employer and everything should be sorted.

Good luck.

that what they have being doing I current have 3 copies of the tax cert and they sent TUS 3 copies,

jos22 wrote: »

that what they have being doing I current have 3 copies of the tax cert and they sent TUS 3 copies,

Well then the fault clearly lies with your TUS employer and you need to get onto your TUS Supervisor and ask them to help get this sorted. This is intolerable. It's bad enough we only get paid an extra 20 euros a week, but with emergency tax currently being taken off you, you most likely are coming out with less money than if your were just on the dole.

Being on a TUS scheme is supposed to NOT leave you financially worse off. I think you need to point this out to your TUS Supervisor and plead in particular to help get this sorted because you need the money that's been withheld for Xmas.

toadettee

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they want you off the numbers, no other reason,

Gas out when it suits them.

DenMan

I finished my TUS placement this day last week! I had a great time during the course of the year. Being honest it just flew through. I was allowed to use my skills and attributes and bring them to my placement. I was teaching for the year and also helping with the computers. It was brilliant. The day I finished I attended an interview for a very similar position and on Wednesday got confirmation that I had succeeded in getting the new position. I’m thrilled and I start this Monday. The TUS staff that I was in contact over the year were great and gave me a glowing reference. I hope those who are currently on the scheme enjoy their time on it and that it will help to open doors for them that were previously not opened. It’s easier to get a job when you already have one. Good luck everyone!

rsole1

DenMan wrote: »

I finished my TUS placement this day last week! I had a great time during the course of the year. Being honest it just flew through. I was allowed to use my skills and attributes and bring them to my placement. I was teaching for the year and also helping with the computers. It was brilliant. The day I finished I attended an interview for a very similar position and on Wednesday got confirmation that I had succeeded in getting the new position. I’m thrilled and I start this Monday. The TUS staff that I was in contact over the year were great and gave me a glowing reference. I hope those who are currently on the scheme enjoy their time on it and that it will help to open doors for them that were previously not opened. It’s easier to get a job when you already have one. Good luck everyone!

Well done, and good luck to you for the future.

tusnumber000

Very interesting reading here today. I got my first letter in the tus process last week ,im slightly disturbed. Sent it back with a yes, didnt seem to have much choice at this stage. Feels like someone with a death camp badge and a large alsatian has entered my life !

tusnumber000 wrote: »

Feels like someone with a death camp badge and a large alsatian has entered my life !

Exactly!

jos22 wrote: »

anyone know how long it takes them to sort tax on tus scheme being on emergency tax now for 2 months, rang the tax office 3 times no change,
they keep telling me to get on to the TUS crew, tus crew just say ring the tax office again

This shouldn't be happening. I was only emergency taxed for 2/3 weeks and after that got the money back.

All I had to do was make one phone call to the tax office and it was sorted. I hope you get it sorted out soon!

Has anyone else actually had a Tus probation document to fill out - or is it just me? Is this something everyone gets or am I a special case?!

Fred Swanson

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I feel like I'm back at school in the naughty corner!

tusnumber000

I just love the words random "Selection process". Why dont they just build large camps for the unemployed and tattoo on number on our forehead !

tusnumber000

Just found this , may be of interest and comment

Tús – Community Work Placement Guidance Notes
1 Selection of Organisation providing work placements
1.1 The selection of placement providers and the work to be undertaken shall be conducted in a fair, equitable, transparent and impartial manner.
1.2 The Implementing Bodies shall advertise and promote Tús widely in its area of operation. Such advertisement or promotion need not be confined to the print media and can take form of direct approach, canvassing, information events and other promotional activities.
1.3 Given the nature of Tús it may not be possible to satisfy all applications from placement providers.
1.4 The application process should enable reasonable detailed work profiles and outputs to be determined, including timetables for completion of various tasks being put forward under the application, the risks and costs associated with delivery. The application process shall include question that establish the:
1.4.1 Eligibility and capacity of the organisation for support and the work to undertaken
1.4.2 Profile of the work to be undertaken, availability and duration of the work placement
1.4.3 Reasonableness of any costs involved for the placement provider or the Implementing Body, if relevant
1.4.4 Displacement or deadweight; and
1.4.5 Other matters that the implementing Body may consider relevant.

1.5 It is a matter for the Board of the Implementation Body to select the placement providers and to put in place suitable arrangements for the identification, application, selection and approval of work placements should be agreed by the Board
1.6 The selection and assessment process shall ensure that all applications from placement providers are evaluated against agreed criteria. These processes will consider matters of work quality, local management capacity, suitability, that a participant will not fill a vacancy for a permanent job, displacement, deadweight and value for money. Additional criteria may apply.
1.7 Work placements are required to be of sufficient quality in terms of working environment and conditions, tasks to be undertaken, capacity of the organisation proposing the work placement to guide the task, the contribution of the work to the wellbeing of the community; and the extent to which the work placement will support the objectives of the organisation proposing the work placement and the promotion of voluntary effort.
1.8 In selecting work placements, the Implementing Body will ensure that such work will not displace existing commercial and/or public activity or duplicate service provision by another agency or body. The Implementing Body must determine the degree to which the work placement would have been carried without assistance. The evaluation committee will make sufficient enquiries and assess:
1.8.1 Deadweight – this is an assessment of the output which would have occurred regardless of the work placement and the work undertaken;
1.8.2 Displacement – this will examine the degree to which the work placement outputs have occurred at the expense of other outputs (i.e. do the outputs results in a reduction of outputs within the area?)
1.8.3 Substitution – the likelihood that an organisation substitutes one activity for one that can be undertaken with the support of Tús (such as offering a work placement while another employee loses a job) to take advantage of the assistance offered by Tús.
1.9 It is unlawful to discriminate against persons on the grounds of gender, sexual orientation, marital or parental status, religion, age, disability, race, colour, language, nationality and national or ethnic orientation, including membership of the travelling community. The legislation makes discrimination unlawful not only in the workplace but also in the provision of goods, facilities and services, including recreational facilities and services.
1.10 The Implementing Body is required to reflect equality of opportunity in assessing applications by placement providers and is directed not to place persons in work placements where a policy of discrimination by the placement provider operates, or is likely to operate in the future. This applies even if there is no complaint of discrimination.

2 Eligible Organisation
2.1 Implementing Bodies will play the lead-roll in identifying Community and Voluntary Organisations and work opportunities. Those organisations eligible to participate shall be
2.1.1 Community, voluntary and not-for-profit in natire; and
2.1.2 Have a recognised informal or formal/legal structure (parish/community committee, a company limited by guarantee, not-for-profit co-operative or friendly society where profits or surpluses are not distributed to members, registered charities, trade, sporting, cultural or other associations); and
2.1.3 Demonstrate a track record of working with or providing services to and within their communities; and
2.1.4 Demonstrate a capability of managing the candidate in the placement with the supervisory support of the Implementing Body.
2.2 Individuals, private or public bodies, schools, colleges and commercial entities (for profit bodies or organisations) are not eligible to participate.

3 Eligible Work
3.1 Selected work opportunities must fall within the following broad categories of work;
3.1.1 Energy conservation work in homes and community buildings.
3.1.2 Social care of persons of all age groups and persons with a disability or limited mobility.
3.1.3 Caretaking, securing, supervising of community buildings and spaces
3.1.4 Renovation of community and sporting facilities, including the regeneration and enhancement of community, recreation and sporting spaces
3.1.5 Work in support of the promotion of the Irish language, other cultural and heritage activities
3.1.6 Community administration, research, and community event management
3.1.7 Coaching for sporting activity (where operated by designated sport organisations)
3.1.8 Repair of equipment for the developing world – farm tools, bicycles, computers, sewing machines, health equipment.