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Is Gortex really the bees knees?

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  • 13-08-2020 8:35pm
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    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭


    Drives up the price on jackets, gloves etc but are the in house equivalents just as good e.g. Dainese D Dry - will this keep you just as dry?


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    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Goretex is used now like the word 'Hoover' is for vacuum cleaners.

    I think other branded alternatives are just as effective. Water resistant I'd call all of them, not water 'proof'.

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    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Personally I stick with a good padded leather jacket. Had it for years now, wax it once a year to keep it waterproof.


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Personally I stick with a good padded leather jacket. Had it for years now, wax it once a year to keep it waterproof.

    Does it have any protection?


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    zubair
    Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    If you want proper WP gear that actually works and lasts years GTX is what you need. Own brand WP liners aren't to the same standard and eventually leak. That said, whether GTX is worth it, is more down to how you'll use it.

    Also, keep an eye out for deals online, GTX isn't always eye wateringly expensive.


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    Lyle Lanley
    Registered Users Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    Probably said it here before but my Gore-Tex jacket is almost as old as I am and it's still doesn't let in a drop. Gloves the same. Bought cheaper pants and they leak in the heaviest rain, they're not bad but it's definitely not the same quality


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    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,683 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Are bees knees really the knees...


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    Jimmy Bottlehead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,118 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    Goretex are also apparently very fussy about the garments that they allow their name to be used on. So it makes sense they'd be high quality at least, and at best markedly higher quality than competitors.


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    Dancewithme
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    Hi am looking for recommendations for jackets that will keep out the rain over winter. Want helly Hansen but can't afford. If anyone has any recommendations that would be appreciated


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    Denny61
    Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Denny61


    I've a pair of boots I wear on farm for about 8 months of the year .I've them 20 years .ecco boots..goretex leather. So soft. Too .stand up to any thing..so ya Goretex is the bees knees incidentally. They cost 130 euro over 20 years ago .Well worth it


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    ratracer
    Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Yes it is!
    Sheltex or any other patent copy of it is crap in my experience.

    Pay decent money once and it pays for itself, otherwise you will be replacing the item and end up paying similar money as you would have anyway.


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    Denny61
    Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Denny61


    Dancewithme wrote: »
    Hi am looking for recommendations for jackets that will keep out the rain over winter. Want helly Hansen but can't afford. If anyone has any recommendations that would be appreciated
    .you can't go wrong with regatta .warm and keep out any rain


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Denny61 wrote: »
    .you can't go wrong with regatta .warm and keep out any rain

    Keeps out any rain if its not raining more like, there's a quantum leap of a difference between this and gortex jackets.
    I paid big money probably about 15 years ago for a Dainese Goretex jacket and it would still do good in a heavy shower, it lasted 100% for at least 6 years everyday couriering.

    Are you confusing regatta with rukka by any chance?


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    H_Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Being a full blown hydrophobic fair weather fairy I rarely test the gear:pac: but I recently bagged a 2nd hand goretex laminate jacket and tis the bidness. Doesn't get drippy and heavy when wet, water beads off it and it breathes way better, lighter n less bulky too. With a nickwax treatment it actually doesn't get wet, just shake it off lol.

    Anyone looking for decent quality 2nd gear on ebay should search for hein gericke goretex, mine is the laminate Pro psx iirc.


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    GBX
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    Denny61 wrote: »
    .you can't go wrong with regatta .warm and keep out any rain

    Maybe over a bike jacket. Won't have any protection in it.


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    Wonda-Boy
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    There is a reason it is expensive, it works. Simple.

    Not saying that brands own waterproof line doesnt work but I have had Dainese boots with the D Dry or what ever they use and after 3mths leaked. Same with RST boots terrible.

    Everything I have for the wet is GTX, if I cant afford the it I wait to buy till I can.


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    CJhaughey
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    As I understand it, Goretex garments have to be submitted to Goretex for approval so they can carry the tag.
    If a garment doesn't make the grade at Goretex due to manufacturing issues or design it is rejected and has to be resubmitted.
    This is largely the reason for the price difference between Gore and other waterproof materials.

    Laminates are the best for lightness and waterproofness especially if they have DWR coatings which make the water bead and run off.

    I am tempted by the Oxford Mondial Advanced jacket, although not GTX it has very good reviews and isn't super expensive.


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    CJ, I was looking at the mondial one myself. Cheapest I found is on sportsbikesshop if you're looking.

    https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/433510


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    H_Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Skill Magill wrote: »
    CJ, I was looking at the mondial one myself. Cheapest I found is on sportsbikesshop if you're looking.

    https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/433510

    https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/textile-jackets-trousers-suits/oxford-mondial-laminate-jacket-trousers-review
    Steve Rose likes it.
    I’ve spent most of the winter riding through torrential rain and storms, racking up the miles, wondering if this is the trip when the waterproofing on this well-priced suit will fail. So far it has absolutely and totally failed to let me down. That’s impressive enough, but the fact that it is also warm, comfy and has pockets that are equally waterproof is a real eye-opener about what is possible for less than £500


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    Richard tea
    Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    I picked up Gortex laminate jacket and pants last December. Its a massive difference to the shelltex hein gericke gear I had. the biggest benefit is the water beads off it. It does not soak into the under garment. Although the old gear kept me dry it was still a pain to dry out the outer layer overnight before my commute the next morning. If you are an all season commuter I would definitely recommend the laminate Goretex over the standard Goretex.


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    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    I have Goretex (summer) gloves and boots.

    Both have been bone dry since I got them a year ago. The other major adavantage of Goretex (imo) is is more breathable than the alternatives. Neither gloves nor boots are sweaty.

    Couldn't afford Goretex Jacket/Pants though when I was buying but I will try to pick them up individually on sale when my current ones wear.


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Richard tea wrote: »
    I picked up Gortex laminate jacket and pants last December. Its a massive difference to the shelltex hein gericke gear I had. the biggest benefit is the water beads off it. It does not soak into the under garment. Although the old gear kept me dry it was still a pain to dry out the outer layer overnight before my commute the next morning. If you are an all season commuter I would definitely recommend the laminate Goretex over the standard Goretex.
    Which one? Can you link it?


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    Richard tea
    Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Skill Magill wrote: »
    Which one? Can you link it?

    https://www.motorcycleshop.ie/richa-atlantic-gore-tex-jacket-black-58330-p.asp they had a sale at the time so I picked up the jacket and pants.


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    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Ricardo Chilly Self-portrait wrote: »
    Does it have any protection?

    My one does yeah, it was a Richa one I got absolutely years ago. Easily 17 or so years ago. It's pretty thick and the few small incidents and one serious incident I've had it was absolutely fantastic.


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    OhToBeByTheSea
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    I've Held goretex jacket and pants, they were both around €300 each. I've them nearly 5 years and still fully waterproof. I've tried lots of other "waterproof" gear and nothing comes near the goretex.


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    macplaxton
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Goretex is great, but you need to learn how to read the weather too. :P:D

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    Wonda-Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 10,013 ✭✭✭✭Wonda-Boy


    I have just ordered the RST Laminate Textile suit, should be in for me in 2 weeks. Will let you all know how it fears out....


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    H_Lime
    Registered Users Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Wonda-Boy wrote: »
    I have just ordered the RST Laminate Textile suit, should be in for me in 2 weeks. Will let you all know how it fears out....
    Hope it rains for you! :eek:


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    Skill Magill
    Registered Users Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    I'll do the same, went for the Dainese Carve master 2

    https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/340137

    Wonda, do you have a link to the gear you're getting?


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    IrishGrimReaper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    My cousin has the carve master 2 kit and we got caught in a good bit of rain yesterday it's a quality piece of kit for the price.


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    IrishGrimReaper wrote: »
    My cousin has the carve master 2 kit and we got caught in a good bit of rain yesterday it's a quality piece of kit for the price.

    Is that an Adventure jacket?


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