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Do you think kids need parents of opposite sex?

  • 18-06-2017 03:55PM
    #1
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭


    Being Father's Day along with the new Taoiseach and remebering the marriage referendum back in 2015, I thought about whether children/teens need the set-up of a mother and father as some opponents of the referendum claimed.

    I don't think people have as much a problem with single biological mothers/fathers marrying the same sex as much as they do with adoption. I know the arguments against same sex adoption are 'Mother and father's complement each other in ways two mothers or two fathers cannot'.

    What is your opinion on this? I'd say such statements are a bit sexist aren't they?


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  • #2
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,479 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    They need parents who give a shít. Gender or sexual persuasion is irrelevant.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #3
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Loving parent/parents is what they need.


  • #4
    Bishopsback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Bishopsback


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Being Father's Day along with the new Taoiseach and remebering the marriage referendum back in 2015, I thought about whether children/teens need the set-up of a mother and father as some opponents of the referendum claimed.

    I don't think people have as much a problem with single biological mothers/fathers marrying the same sex as much as they do with adoption. I know the arguments against same sex adoption are 'Mother and father's complement each other in ways two mothers or two fathers cannot'.

    What is your opinion on this? I'd say such statements are a bit sexist aren't they?

    I'd say so.
    A loving caring environment, be it single parent, mum and dad or two parents of the same sex is the most important thing for any child or youngster growing up!


  • #5
    Pac1Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    Yes.


  • #6
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Kids need someone decent and kind in their lives no matter who that is. I wouldn't deprive a child of a happy upbringing just because the would be parent is single or has a partner of the same sex. I was raised by my biological parents, sadly one wasn't fit for the role so my childhood wasn't particularly happy. I'd have swapped it for a single parent or same sex parents.


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  • #7
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Would any children care to give us their opinion?


  • #8
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    For me, parents should be a Mother and Father ......... same sex parents can cause confusion for children as well as ridicule (albeit unfair) from their peers which will have long-term negative effects on them.

    Obviously any parents should be loving and caring but that goes without saying .........


  • #9
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No. Daft idea.

    Case in point: single parents.

    End of discussion.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #10
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,204 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    It helps to have parents who model as many scenarios as possible. With strict gender roles it would take two parents of opposite genders to raise a child well. Now people are more free to mix gender roles. 

    Surely two parents of the same gender is better then one parent of either gender - not taking from the job single parents do. 

    No is the answer to the question


  • #11
    jeanjolie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    For me, parents should be a Mother and Father ......... same sex parents can cause confusion for children as well as ridicule (albeit unfair) from their peers which will have long-term negative effects on them.

    Obviously any parents should be loving and caring but that goes without saying .........

    Is it because of 'inherent difference' or just for the simplicity?


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  • #12
    me_right_one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Yes, children should have one parent of each sex, in my opinion. They had to in the first place to be biologically conceived at all. In my opinion, anything else is unnatural.


  • #13
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Every fatherless child I know has turned out damaged.


  • #14
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    me_right_one wrote: »
    Yes, children should have one parent of each sex, in my opinion. They had to in the first place to be biologically conceived at all. In my opinion, anything else is unnatural.

    "unnatural"

    "Gays are mentally ill"

    Yeah, you're definitely not a homophobe...


  • #15
    frag420
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    me_right_one wrote: »
    Yes, children should have one parent of each sex, in my opinion. They had to in the first place to be biologically conceived at all. In my opinion, anything else is unnatural.

    What if one of the parents dies or leaves?

    Should we force the other parent to find a suitable partner in your opinion?

    Is a one parent family unnatural in your opinion?


  • #16
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Is it because of 'inherent difference' or just for the simplicity?

    Mothers/females and Fathers/males parent differently, play differently, communicate differently and prepare children for life differently so they need the balance of both Mother and Father to develop properly ......... in my opinion.


  • #17
    Icaras
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    All the scumbags I know come from opposite sex parents, I dont see how same sex parents can make it any worse.


  • #18
    Hannibal_Smith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,471 ✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    me_right_one wrote: »
    Yes, children should have one parent of each sex, in my opinion. They had to in the first place to be biologically conceived at all. In my opinion, anything else is unnatural.

    I honestly can't stand this. Being gay, is just as natural as being straight. Sexual orientation is part of everyones natural make up. Have two loving parents, regardless of gender is not unnatural.


  • #19
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    No. Daft idea.

    Case in point: single parents.

    End of discussion.

    Single Parent families aren't the ideal scenario either and, I believe, that omission of a Father (or, in rare cases, a Mother) can have a detrimental effect on children.

    Discussion continues ............


  • #20
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    me_right_one wrote: »
    Yes, children should have one parent of each sex, in my opinion. They had to in the first place to be biologically conceived at all. In my opinion, anything else is unnatural.

    You so realise that communication via an internet message board is also unnatural, right?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #21
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Single Parent families aren't the ideal scenario either and, I believe, that omission of a Father (or, in rare cases, a Mother) can have a detrimental effect on children.

    Discussion continues ............

    Is that solely down to the lack.of a father or a combination of issues though.


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  • #22
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    You so realise that communication via an internet message board is also unnatural, right?

    That might have sounded very clever in your head but when typed ........ well ......... it just didn't work.


  • #23
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    Single Parent families aren't the ideal scenario either and, I believe, that omission of a Father (or, in rare cases, a Mother) can have a detrimental effect on children.

    Discussion continues ............

    There is no such thing as 'ideal' - plenty of neuclear parents can attest to that.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #24
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    That might have sounded very clever in your head but when typed ........ well ......... it just didn't work.

    Tell, me is the keyboard or phone in front of you natural or manmade?

    If you think everything natural is good and unnatural is bad, you should recheck everything you do to see how 'natural' it is. Wearing clothes, for a start - unnarural, but do you really think freezing your ass of is better?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #25
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I definitely think everyone should know where they came from and have a relationship with their biological parents if possible

    I don't think they necessarily need to be raised by them.


  • #26
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    Tell, me is the keyboard or phone in front of you natural or manmade?

    You're going waaaay off topic with what you may think is a very clever way of proving your point ........... it isn't, regroup your thoughts and we can engage in a discussion of the topic itself. :)


  • #27
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Maybe a role model but that doesn't have to be a parent. As people have said, as long as the parent(s) are caring, who cares. Has anyone saying that you need a parent of both gender ever actually seen a child come out worse for wear due to the lack of a particular gendered parent?


  • #28
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,063 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    What is your opinion on this? I'd say such statements are a bit sexist aren't they?


    I wouldn't say they're sexist, they're just that person's opinion based upon their experience, and since most of us will have been raised in a two-parent household with opposite-sex parents, and most of us turned out alright, it's perfectly understandable that most of would see that as the ideal and what we would recommend as the best outcome for children if asked.

    That's not intended as an insult to other people, nor is it a commentary on how other people choose to parent their children, it's simply one perspective among many, many others who will base their judgement of the ideal way to raise children based upon their experience.


  • #29
    MadDog76
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Is that solely down to the lack.of a father or a combination of issues though.

    The lack of a Father, or Mother, can (and in the majority of cases, will) have long-term negative impacts on a child ......... there are, of course, exceptions to the rule but in general a child benefits greatly from the ideal scenario of a loving caring Mother and Father ......... again, in my opinion.


  • #30
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Do you think kids need parents of opposite sex?

    I wouldn't say they "need" one of each, but I would say that its preferable.

    Why?

    Well from my perspective a Mother and a Father bring different things to the table. Ideally the male & female parents will complement each other, therefore the Mum will naturally be better with some aspects of parenting, while the Dad will excel at others.


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  • #31
    Avatar MIA
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    On behalf of the OP thanks for helping with his school/college report.


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