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The US Think They Can Extradite Gary Davis

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  • 15-07-2015 2:05am
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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭


    Not only is he an Irish citizen, Ireland has never extradited an Irish citizen to the US and they never will. He has Aspergers. The US gov would sentence him to life an extremely unfair and harsh sentence. Sending someone with aspergers to a US prision is pretty much a death sentence.
    irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gary-davis-trial-claims-wicklow-6066488


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    corner of hells
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    Steve Davis , ok

    Ray Davis , ok

    Derek Davis , ok

    Gary Davis ?


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Steve Davis , ok

    Ray Davis , ok

    Derek Davis , ok

    Gary Davis ?

    All the details are in the article.


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    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    johnc77 wrote: »
    All the details are in the article.

    I think I've made it clear I've no intention of reading any article.


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    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    He was allegedly an admin of The Silk Road...distributors of drugs, child porn, weapons, assassinations, stolen credit cards etc?

    Tell me again how serving life in jail would be a harsh sentence?


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    The Honey Monster wrote: »
    He was allegedly an admin of The Silk Road...distributors of drugs, child porn, weapons, assassinations, stolen credit cards etc?

    Tell me again how serving life in jail would be a harsh sentence?
    Because he has autism he should be prosecuted in Irish courts. Also the servers were not in the US. What gives the US the right to prosecute?


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    The_Valeyard
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Because he has autism he should be prosecuted in Irish courts. Also the servers were not in the US. What gives the US the right to prosecute?


    'murica :cool:


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    jimmycrackcorm
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Not only is he an Irish citizen, Ireland has never extradited an Irish citizen to the US and they never will. He has Aspergers

    Flood of job adverts: Wanted - IT guy for major financial organization, must have aspergers so we can get awa y with doing dodgy stuff.


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    end of the road
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Because he has autism he should be prosecuted in Irish courts. Also the servers were not in the US. What gives the US the right to prosecute?
    because its america. they are the world police and can do what they like. the rest of us will know our place and do what america says or else.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    Flood of job adverts: Wanted - IT guy for major financial organization, must have aspergers so we can get awa y with doing dodgy stuff.

    You can even get away with hacking NASA wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_McKinnon


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    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
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    The Honey Monster wrote: »
    He was allegedly an admin of The Silk Road...distributors of drugs, child porn, weapons, assassinations, stolen credit cards etc?

    Tell me again how serving life in jail would be a harsh sentence?

    Has he ever even been to the US? If he committed a crime here he should be prosecuted here, here isn't there and there isn't here so there!


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    Royal Irish
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    Fifa


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    lizzyman
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    The Honey Monster wrote: »
    He was allegedly an admin of The Silk Road...distributors of drugs, child porn, weapons, assassinations, stolen credit cards etc?

    Tell me again how serving life in jail would be a harsh sentence?

    Nope.

    Silk Road was a marketplace, a platform where all kinds of (mostly) illegal shít could be sold. Morally and legally dubious, yes, very much so. But a distributor of the stuff mentioned in your post it was not.


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    Irish Guitarist
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    I'd be in favour of handing him over to the US before they start a war with us.


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    lizzyman wrote: »
    Nope.

    Silk Road was a marketplace, a platform where all kinds of (mostly) illegal shít could be sold. Morally and legally dubious, yes, very much so. But a distributor of the stuff mentioned in your post it was not.
    He didn't even own the site. The poor bastard who owned it got life in the US. He was more of a mod.


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    Also Ireland actually has a law that says if the crime was not committed in the country seeking extradition they cannot extradite.


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    endacl
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    Grand so.

    /thread.


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    lizzyman
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Also Ireland actually has a law that says if the crime was not committed in the country seeking extradition they cannot extradite.

    lol

    We also have one about neutrality. Didn't seem to stop the US military using Shannon as a landing base.

    I can see this poor guy being fúcked off the the States as soon as they put in an extradition request.


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    Sunnyisland
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    If the U.S. Want him most likely the U.S. Will get him, it takes a strong government /country to say no to them...


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    Cookie_Monster
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    lizzyman wrote: »
    Nope.

    Silk Road was a marketplace, a platform where all kinds of (mostly) illegal shít could be sold. Morally and legally dubious, yes, very much so. But a distributor of the stuff mentioned in your post it was not.

    and he's not charged with that, but he is charged with:
    Gary Davis, aged 27, of Johnstown Court, Kilpedder, Co Wicklow, is wanted for trial by US authorities on charges of conspiracy to distribute narcotics, conspiracy to commit computer hacking and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

    His autism didn't stop him from running the site, why should it prevent him for being tried?


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    and he's not charged with that, but he is charged with:


    His autism didn't stop him from running the site, why should it prevent him for being tried?

    The servers are not located in the US. They have 0 jurisdiction.


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    Cookie_Monster
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    The servers are not located in the US. They have 0 jurisdiction.

    but they do with the newer banking laws, if any of those transactions went through the US they claim jurisdiction.


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    It wasn't me!
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    lizzyman wrote: »
    lol

    We also have one about neutrality. Didn't seem to stop the US military using Shannon as a landing base.

    We do? Care to point it out?


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    johnc77
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭johnc77


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    but they do with the newer banking laws, if any of those transactions went through the US they claim jurisdiction.
    Nope rico does not apply to bitcoin transactions.


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    FISMA.
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Because he has autism he should be prosecuted in Irish courts.

    Ah, the auld autism defence.

    I agree with the op in that the defendant should be kept in Ireland.

    Additionally, the US should repatriate every scummer with any link to the auld sod immediately.


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    Wompa1
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    What crime did they commit in the US? There has to be some crime committed there otherwise they would not be seeking to extradite them. If money was wired through the US, they can use that as justification to pursue them


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    wicklowwonder
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    So should we try him or is OP looking for him to released?

    If the yanks have a case and jurisdiction let him go if they don't have jurisdiction but he did commit a crime in Ireland we should deal with him.


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    SuperS54
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    johnc77 wrote: »
    Nope rico does not apply to bitcoin transactions.

    You seem to know an awful lot about Mr. Davis, the crimes he's alleged to have committed and the relevant laws...what's your stake in this? What's your relationship to him?


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    lizzyman wrote: »
    I can see this poor guy being fúcked off the the States as soon as they put in an extradition request.

    Well looks like you don't know the first thing about extraditions...

    http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-citizen-deported-united-states-deported-algerian-2116734-May2015/

    Though I don't think the citizenship aspect should give Davis any protection.


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    realies wrote: »
    If the U.S. Want him most likely the U.S. Will get him, it takes a strong government /country to say no to them...

    It's not "the Government/country", it's the courts, and they regularly refuse applications. Not on the basis of "their strength", but the law.


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    nxbyveromdwjpg
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    Wompa1 wrote: »
    What crime did they commit in the US? There has to be some crime committed there otherwise they would not be seeking to extradite them. If money was wired through the US, they can use that as justification to pursue them

    He was a moderator of a forum, like the moderators here of this forum. The topics of that forum were for the most part illegal (drugs).

    So he's committed no crime here and that's for certain. I would be of the opinion he's committed no crime anywhere really, but America has proven itself not to give a sh*t about little things like other countries laws.

    Are boards.ie moderators responsible for the contents of the posts here?

    It's shameful that Ireland is even entertaining this.


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