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Food Intolerance Testing

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    So much this. FODMAPs is the ONLY proven dietary intervention to alleviate IBS. Those intolerance tests are bunk and unfortunately expensive bunk.

    I agree with you completely, there is no medical grounds for these tests or their findings, in fact the test behind them just highlights stuff you are eating, for me (and other's I'm sure) they are an extremely useful guideline. For example, I knew that there was something in some breads that would make me come out in a rash, I knew if I had a lot of full fat milk I wouldn't feel great, but I never thought of eggs and peanuts. I'd often have a packet of peanuts with a few pints and I'd be in bits the next day, now by cutting out the peanuts I don't feel so bad, boiled eggs are a thing of the past, I'm avoiding cream as well.

    It might seem an awful waste of money for a guideline for what I'm sure most people would see as common sense, but for me it's putting sense to feeling like cr@p and having no energy for a few days for no reason.


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 specialCK


    Hi fellas, i was onto my doctor yesterday and he tells me that this food intolerance / allergy test can be done "for free" in James' Hospital. Happy days. I will keep ye posted, once I have the results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭juke


    I bet a lot of people out there who think it's gluten can tolerate spelt bread just fine (barring coeliac of course). Spelt has gluten but no fructans which is the fodmap that causes a lot of people with IBS to flare. Try it out and see if you notice a difference, if you do, try the fodmaps properly, it's quite restrictive but it get's easier as you introduce different foods.

    For me it was wheat, onions and garlic. aka fructans.
    Clareman wrote: »
    I agree with you completely, there is no medical grounds for these tests or their findings, in fact the test behind them just highlights stuff you are eating, for me (and other's I'm sure) they are an extremely useful guideline. For example, I knew that there was something in some breads that would make me come out in a rash, I knew if I had a lot of full fat milk I wouldn't feel great, but I never thought of eggs and peanuts. I'd often have a packet of peanuts with a few pints and I'd be in bits the next day, now by cutting out the peanuts I don't feel so bad, boiled eggs are a thing of the past, I'm avoiding cream as well.

    This caught my attention. I haven't been able to pinpoint out exactly what triggers my rash - just some flour products - never occurred to be it could be different types of flour.

    Clareman, were you able to narrow down specific breads that are worse than others?

    Are spelt breads even widely available? It would be interesting to try it out. I miss toast and butter :o


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    juke wrote: »
    This caught my attention. I haven't been able to pinpoint out exactly what triggers my rash - just some flour products - never occurred to be it could be different types of flour.

    Clareman, were you able to narrow down specific breads that are worse than others?

    Are spelt breads even widely available? It would be interesting to try it out. I miss toast and butter :o

    I'm gone a bit healthy, so I'm cutting out breads and pasta, I know it was certain breads from some shops, especially some brown breads that made me come out in a rash. I'm thinking it might be some kind of yeast as well as the flour.

    I tried some gluten free breads for lunch and stuff, but to be honest might as well just cut it all out rather than try that stuff.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Hi again all,

    Pretty much 2 months down at this stage and I have to say I'm feeling better, not as tired the whole time, sleeping less and the "butterflies" in my stomach are gone. Saying that, I was my works Christmas party on Friday night and I figured I'd just eat what I wanted, I suffered for it yesterday. I had the first session with the nutritionist as well, mainly common sense stuff really, she was night though and wasn't what I expected, I was expecting to be told to only eat salads and tofu, but she listened to me and gave some tips.

    I know it's a lot of money and I know (trust me I know) there isn't any proof out there that it works, but for me it has been great and worth every penny. There's an offer going with YorkTest.ie at the moment that you can get a €50 discount through a refer a friend scheme, I'm happy to share my details with anyone who's thinking of doing the test and wants €50 off, PM me for my ID number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    mejulie805 wrote: »
    Having completed the FODMAPS diet, I would definitely recommend to anyone who has or thinks they have IBS to get to a nutritionist and start on the plan.

    It's 6-8 weeks of avoiding all FODMAPs and gradual reintroduction, to see how you feel after certain foods.

    For me, it was garlic and apples. GARLIC! :O I haven't stopped eating it completely, but I know what to expect when I do.

    Nothing else works, everyone is different. I'm yet to find someone who did an 'allergy test' and wasn't told to reduce gluten and dairy..


    Can you give some info on what was involved. What was the process from your first appointment? How many appointments? what was the total cost?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Can you give some info on what was involved. What was the process from your first appointment? How many appointments? what was the total cost?

    Hi,

    From my point of view what was involved was ordering a kit. Once it arrives you do a pin prick on a finger and send back a sample, after that they send you your results and you call up to arrange a consultation with 1 of their people. They then go through the results with you and give some advice. Total cost was €350


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Clareman wrote: »
    Hi,

    From my point of view what was involved was ordering a kit. Once it arrives you do a pin prick on a finger and send back a sample, after that they send you your results and you call up to arrange a consultation with 1 of their people. They then go through the results with you and give some advice. Total cost was €350


    Im confused now. I have already in the past done the Fitzwilliam food test. Is the Fodmap approach not completely different? Does the fodmap require bloodtests also?


  • Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭JohnBee


    Just to clarify a few points.

    1. To the poster who said "legally I am a nutritionist", it is important to inform what that means. A dietician is the legally recognised term both in Ireland, UK and many other countries for someone who has a bachelors degree in the science of nutrition. Nutritionist is not a legally defined term. Therefore the poster by saying that legally they are a nutritionist, really what they mean is legally they are NOT a dietician. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist as it has no legal meaning.

    2. Medically, people either have food allergies or inability to process specific food items. Food allergies are allergic reactions caused by specific antibodies to specific food components. Other people can have inherited enzyme deficiencies. The alternative food industry has taken this and generalised it to people with bad diets. The most recent fad is the gluten free diet. The thinking being that given certain individuals (coeliacs) have specific antibodies to the gliaden fraction of gluten, which causes specific complaints, including an increased risk of a particular type of bowel tumor, then if we eliminate gluten from healthy people it will also make them feel better. This is false logic. The trend before gluten was lactose. Some people are born with an inability to process lactose (lactosemia). In babies born with this, continued intake of lactose leads to liver failure and delayed development. Again the alternative brigade took this and said well maybe eliminating lactose from people who are born normally also must be good and hence the fad arises.

    3. Reading those that have food "intolerances: here, the answer is staring them in the face. For example the poster looking for that magic dietary cure which will change their life. Except, a 10 day business trip, with meals out and alcohol is never going to change that. Its analogous to the diet industry. People want that magic diet, that one simple easy thing to make the weight fall off. Having seen many patients with irregular bowel habits or cramping etc, closer inspection always finds the answer. Many of these will have hectic lives, irregular sleep patterns, too much alcohol, caffeine, processed foods. Eliminating certain particular foods is not the answer. The answer is realising that to feel good you have to look after yourself, try sleep more, reduce the caffeine, eat less food in restaurants (full of salt and sugar). You dont need to pay 350 dollars for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭purplecow1977


    How do you know if' you're intolerant to certain foods?

    Sometimes after meals I have a lot of wind but usually there would be many other symptoms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 emryan


    I did a food intolerance test recently It was carried out in conjunction with kineasiology principles. Two people formed a link with me and one tried for reaction to different philals of foodstuffs. I was advised that I was intolerant to dairy sugar red wine rice and wheat. They advised on substitute foods and I have to say I am really happy with the results I have lost over 2 stone in a short time. I gave up my medicine to control my stomack acid and feel that my system is no longer under pressure. My blood pressure has improved and I am able to cross my legs again ! It amazes me that some weight loss programmes advise say 2 slices of bread I cant have any so how could I loose weight on those programmes? I used take medicine to control my stomach acid reflux but I think that my body was just reacting to certains foods and shouting NO ! Instead of a bowl of cornflakes milk and sugar I now have gluten free cornflakes, fructose sugar (looks exactly like ordinary sugar) goats milk and a slice of spelt and honey bread for breakfast. NO big deal. If I eat food that I am intolerant to I have to clear my throat and mucuus gathers in my system.

    So I do not break the rules when out I ask for gluten free bread and I am so grateful I can have potatoes !!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Two couches


    I strongly recommend an appointment with a Nutritionist/Dietician who is a Fodmap specialist for IBS. Having had this problem over 20 years with many Doctors visits (none helpful, GP's seem to be good for a 3 min visit and writing their prescriptions). I had several colonoscopies and other investigations and that was it. When a diagnosis of IBS was made that was the end of that, no referrals to a Dietitian or other investigative path was made, full stop. In this instance the Medical profession was lacking. Having had serious incidents of IBS I DESPERATELY searched online and found the Fodmap information. Doing this oneself might not be best as low Fodmap lists differ on different websites and it. Is very confusing to do oneself. I went to a specialist (suggest you search online for ElaineMcGowan and make an appointments) and it is the best step I have taken, currently on a Fodmao personal plan, beginning stage and feeling great. Everyone's intolerances can differ so it needs to be managed by an expert in this field.
    Good luck and IBS free days in the future for us all.


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