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Why don't we riot like mad ejits

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  • 18-02-2014 5:07am
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    teR_
    Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭


    You turn on the news and ya see all these countries around us that were/are in the shlt, there all running around like lunatics breaking things and burning stuff.

    Here we are and we don't even do the peaceful side of it, am I the only one disappointed in our incapacity to do anythings?


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    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Because contrary to popular belief we aren't actually mad ejits....

    Although TIL the german finance ministry is in the same building that a certain Herr Goering used to occupy


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    Overheal
    Registered Users Posts: 82,157 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    go play tropico and see what a placating effect rum has on the population.


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    sin_city
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    Why would we be going mad?

    Half of us are getting money from the other half for nothing:

    Sweet deal that they probably don't get in other countries
    http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1026476.shtml


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    spiralism
    Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    P_1 wrote: »
    Because contrary to popular belief we aren't actually mad ejits....

    Although TIL the german finance ministry is in the same building that a certain Herr Goering used to occupy

    Not sure why that's much of a fuss. They drive on the Autobahns in that country too and they were designed and built by the Nazis.

    Personally im one of those people that would be a lot more comfortable with the Germans running things through Europe than who we've historically put in charge.

    Maybe that's why we don't riot, because we kinda know deep down that others may know what's better for us than we do.


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    sawdoubters
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    they put something in the water


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    KyussBishop
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    spiralism wrote: »
    Personally im one of those people that would be a lot more comfortable with the Germans running things through Europe than who we've historically put in charge.

    Maybe that's why we don't riot, because we kinda know deep down that others may know what's better for us than we do.
    Germany certainly doesn't know what's better for us, only what's better for Germany - they have torpedoed or neutered every opportunity at real economic reform within the EU, that can provide recovery.

    Germany doesn't give a toss for any country in Europe except their own - happy to take all the economic benefits the Euro provides to their country (the currency has benefited Germany far more than any other EU country), while blocking the economic measures needed to help other EU countries recover - holding those other countries economies in limbo, such that they are unable to compete with Germany internationally.

    If EU countries weren't trapped in the Euro, they would not be held in limbo like this, and would not all have spent so long in crisis; the single currency was a massive mistake, which has now spent almost half of its lifetime damaging countries, by making the policies needed to resolve the crisis, inaccessible.


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    Freddie Dodge
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    teR_ wrote: »
    You turn on the news and ya see all these countries around us that were/are in the shlt, there all running around like lunatics breaking things and burning stuff.

    Here we are and we don't even do the peaceful side of it, am I the only one disappointed in our incapacity to do anythings?

    No, no you're not. In fact there are a few more like you who post here who would love to be out burning stuff they never contributed to and who regularly call the rest of us "sheeple" andstupid words like that. One has even posted here already. Another is called mongo something or other...

    Thankfully you're in a minority though.


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    languagenerd
    Registered Users Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Because rioting like mad eejits and burning stuff doesn't affect the government/EU, it'd only lead to us destroying our own neighbourhoods and businesses, which seems a little counterproductive...


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    Skatedude
    Registered Users Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    er, the pubs are open. Close them and we would riot. but between a riot and a pint. the irish will always chose a pint


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    KyussBishop wrote: »
    Germany certainly doesn't know what's better for us, only what's better for Germany - they have torpedoed or neutered every opportunity at real economic reform within the EU, that can provide recovery.

    Germany doesn't give a toss for any country in Europe except their own - happy to take all the economic benefits the Euro provides to their country (the currency has benefited Germany far more than any other EU country), while blocking the economic measures needed to help other EU countries recover - holding those other countries economies in limbo, such that they are unable to compete with Germany internationally.

    If EU countries weren't trapped in the Euro, they would not be held in limbo like this, and would not all have spent so long in crisis; the single currency was a massive mistake, which has now spent almost half of its lifetime damaging countries, by making the policies needed to resolve the crisis, inaccessible.

    This is like blaming the tee totaler chick in your house for your raging hangover.


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    Davarus Walrus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    An angry mob.
    Smash shít up.
    ?
    ?
    An Ireland that is perfect.


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    iDave
    Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    What does it achieve


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    Thoie
    Registered Users Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    We don't have the weather for it. The people who go out today rioting end up spending the next two weeks in bed with pneumonia, thus lessening the effect.

    We had our chance last summer when we had a prolonged period of nice weather, but it took us by surprise, and we spent too long wandering around in a daze telling each other it was 10pm and we didn't even need a cardigan.


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    Don't Chute!
    Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Don't Chute!


    Because contrary to popular belief we have very little to be rioting about.


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Why don't YOU riot OP? That's probably the same reason everyone else has.


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    DirtyBollox
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    Lets be honest here, the Irish for the most part are a bunch on whingers and complainers. Unless it happens right in front of you chances are you wont do soemthing about it. And even if it does happen in front of you chances are you wont do anything about it.

    And yes, I myself am Irish and include myself in the above.


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    TheDoc
    Registered Users Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    The outlook and social acceptance here is that rioting, protesting and the likes, is a complete waste of time and only disruptive.

    When I've looked on this forum during various protests, it's normally people in the majority, complaining how its disrupting their commute home from work. And I agree.

    It's not the 60's protests achieve nothing but disrupt the days of normal people, thereby garnishing no support. There is a reason there is little to no public support for public infrastructure strikes and protests.

    It's also an excuse for troublemakers, nackers and extreme political enthusiasts to hijack an occasion or just simply cause trouble. I thought that much was obvious at this stage.


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    #19
    teR_
    Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭teR_


    iDave wrote: »
    What does it achieve

    Stress relief


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    teR_
    Registered Users Posts: 195 ✭✭teR_


    biko wrote: »
    Why don't YOU riot OP? That's probably the same reason everyone else has.

    I have a porn addiction, I'd be arrested for playing with myself in public if I was away from my computer to long. People like me are better off in doors thinking about riots.


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    teR_ wrote: »
    Stress relief

    Not for the people whos businesses are on fire.


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    #22
    White Heart Loon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    We are a nation of sheep


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    #23
    kult
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭kult


    because we have no balls at all


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    mathie
    Registered Users Posts: 5,102 ✭✭✭mathie


    At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.

    Source http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

    You can choose not to work in this country and get far more than that.

    So we don't have much to be rioting about.


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    kult
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭kult


    In Iceland, 2008-09 people physically removed corrupt bankers and government out of the buildings. They rewrote constitution , told EU to **** off, and refused paying back debts that banks took in their name. They have balls , but nothing was shown on tv, you know why? Because people would realize it is possible go get countries straight and kick out thieves out of the banks and government... But first, some balls are needed.... many countries did it, but nothing on tv, as tv is being controlled by the same people you go and vote for, and it does not matter what party they are from, they are all thieves, promising things they are never going to fulfill, but people vote for them, because they think they have a choice, yes you have a choice, a choice between one robbing bastard and another one... people do not stand up to that, which only means people like being ****ed up the hole all the time, otherwise they would stand up...


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    kult
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭kult


    mathie wrote: »
    At least 80% of humanity lives on less than $10 a day.

    Source http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats

    You can choose not to work in this country and get far more than that.

    So we don't have much to be rioting about.

    you are like a politician, compare ireland to poorer countries or worse situations... that's so low, maybe compare to richer countries with higher standard of living, irish people deserve more... if you do not stand up now, some time you will wake up living for 10 dollars a day, but you will still say some people are living on 5 dollars a day....they are taking freedom and bringing economy down slowly...


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    White Heart Loon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    kult wrote: »
    In Iceland, 2008-09 people physically removed corrupt bankers and government out of the buildings. They rewrote constitution , told EU to **** off, and refused paying back debts that banks took in their name. They have balls , but nothing was shown on tv, you know why? Because people would realize it is possible go get countries straight and kick out thieves out of the banks and government... But first, some balls are needed.... many countries did it, but nothing on tv, as tv is being controlled by the same people you go and vote for, and it does not matter what party they are from, they are all thieves, promising things they are never going to fulfill, but people vote for them, because they think they have a choice, yes you have a choice, a choice between one robbing bastard and another one... people do not stand up to that, which only means people like being ****ed up the hole all the time, otherwise they would stand up...

    Most of what you say above is true, but the truth is that last year Iceland voted the very same party back into power.....


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    kult
    Closed Accounts Posts: 372 ✭✭kult


    White Heart Loon wrote: »
    Most of what you say above is true, but the truth is that last year Iceland voted the very same party back into power.....

    name of the party is correct, but people are different , I was there that time, bankers got many years in jail and there are still trials going on there... do you really thing people in the "new" party would risk it again??? Iceland already showed that they are able to do it again, and once they did it, the second time will be easier and easier...


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    conorhal
    Registered Users Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭conorhal


    TheDoc wrote: »
    The outlook and social acceptance here is that rioting, protesting and the likes, is a complete waste of time and only disruptive.

    When I've looked on this forum during various protests, it's normally people in the majority, complaining how its disrupting their commute home from work. And I agree.

    It's not the 60's protests achieve nothing but disrupt the days of normal people, thereby garnishing no support. There is a reason there is little to no public support for public infrastructure strikes and protests.

    It's also an excuse for troublemakers, nackers and extreme political enthusiasts to hijack an occasion or just simply cause trouble. I thought that much was obvious at this stage.

    The velvet revolution, that Arab spring and those pesky French disagree with you.


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    kult wrote: »
    In Iceland, 2008-09 people physically removed corrupt bankers and government out of the buildings. They rewrote constitution , told EU to **** off, and refused paying back debts that banks took in their name. They have balls , but nothing was shown on tv, you know why? Because people would realize it is possible go get countries straight and kick out thieves out of the banks and government... But first, some balls are needed.... many countries did it, but nothing on tv, as tv is being controlled by the same people you go and vote for, and it does not matter what party they are from, they are all thieves, promising things they are never going to fulfill, but people vote for them, because they think they have a choice, yes you have a choice, a choice between one robbing bastard and another one... people do not stand up to that, which only means people like being ****ed up the hole all the time, otherwise they would stand up...
    Have they not been in the media saying how no one will buy their bonds now..................


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    Jonny7
    Registered Users Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    kult wrote: »
    In Iceland, 2008-09 people physically removed corrupt bankers and government out of the buildings. They rewrote constitution , told EU to **** off, and refused paying back debts that banks took in their name.

    No, no they didn't. Also, we're in better shape than Iceland - we also have over 20 times the population


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