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New Saorview Plus ads

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    #2
    Mr Cumulonimbus
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    New look on the Saorview website too.


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    FREETV
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    Their current Saorview PVR box is way over priced and is of no use to any of us who can receive Welsh DTT or Ulster Freeview HD from Belfast as it has no T2 tuners. :)


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    The Cush
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    From their website
    Remember your old VCR? And those piles of tapes? This neat little SAORVIEW Approved Set-Top Box does away with all of that clutter and allows you to record hundreds of hours of TV. You can pause and rewind live TV, record one channel while watching another, and Series Link your favourite dramas for when YOU are ready to watch them. The SAORVIEW Plus PVR is your way to take full control of your favourite Irish TV stations, with minimum fuss and maximum convenience.

    http://www.saorview.ie/saorview-options/

    :confused: They advertise series link as a feature but it hasn't been working for a few weeks now???

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87370353#post87370353


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    watty
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    If they are advertising PVR then there must be another brand on the way.
    FREETV wrote: »
    Their current Saorview PVR box is way over priced and is of no use to any of us who can receive Welsh DTT or Ulster Freeview HD from Belfast as it has no T2 tuners. :)
    Get a Freeview + HD box then.


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    July Rain
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    Where are Tommy and PJ gone ?


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    St Senan
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    July Rain wrote: »
    Where are Tommy and PJ gone ?

    In the RTE Archives room where they should have been left at the start of the switchover campaign. What a waste of money they were like a lot of things related to the switchover.


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    mackersdublin
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    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    New look on the Saorview website too.

    It's a bit sleeker but still no online TV Guide


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    The website doesn't list any PVR models, the very thing the advert is about. Are we still limited to the Walker PVR, I'm holding out for one with a betters OSD, not impressed with the Walker setup.


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    The Cush
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    The website doesn't list any PVR models, the very thing the advert is about. Are we still limited to the Walker PVR,

    The Walker PVR is listed together with Walker's other STBs and it's the only Saorview PVR available to date. No info on any future PVRs from other manufacturers.


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    FREETV
    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    watty wrote: »
    If they are advertising PVR then there must be another brand on the way.


    Get a Freeview + HD box then.

    I have two 500GB Freeview + HD boxes made by Pace a couple of years ago but branded as Philips with no series link or info in the EPG for Saorview. :)


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    watty
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    Unsurprising.


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    July Rain
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    Navarre wrote: »
    In the RTE Archives room where they should have been left at the start of the switchover campaign. What a waste of money they were like a lot of things related to the switchover.

    In what way was the campaign a waste of money ? imagine the outrage on Joe Duffy if people's televisions went blank with little warning.


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    watty
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    No, they wasted money the way they did The Campaign. Though not a huge amount. Obviously a campaign was needed.

    Also there should have been legislation. There was in France. No incompatible sets sold after October 2010 and UK Freeview Digital blacked out and all incompatible products between Feb 2008 and October 2010 sold with Sticker "Analogue Only!" Not suitable for Future Irish Digital Service. Instead Irish consumer was ripped off with product obsolete in Germany, UK and "dumped" on Irish market.

    DVD Recorders, Analogue Sat Boxes, Stupid TVs advertised as "HD Ready" that would barely be better than decent CRT set and would need a Set box, even in UK for HD, or would NEVER do HD (no HDCP implemented) except games.


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    St Senan
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    July Rain wrote: »
    In what way was the campaign a waste of money ? imagine the outrage on Joe Duffy if people's televisions went blank with little warning.

    A TV advert with a cartoon cat and dog was made up at a cost to get the message through to the public. People who I installed for or asked about it hadn't a clue or were more confused after listening to PJ and Tommy. Gay Byrne was paid to tell people all they need was a new TV or decoder box can you Imagine all the people who listened to him and went out a bought new TVs only to find out after 24th Oct 2012 that they couldn't receive a terrestrial signal and they need to spend another €400 to get saorsat installed. The saorview campaign had groups from Macra na feirme and the GAA explaining to people what equipment they needed to buy. The local TV shops sold what they wanted to the public. In fact 1 shop down in Wexford was selling Free To Air satellite kits under the saorview logo. There was plenty of outrage on Radio shows all over the country after the ASO when people started to realize that what they bought was not saorview approved when they couldn't receive Aertel


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    July Rain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭July Rain


    What I noticed was a lot of people who have pay tv thought they needed to buy saorview televisions too.


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    The Cush
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    Apogee wrote: »
    Spotted this during ad break for 6.01 news this evening:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7N8Ip2gow

    IFTN news article on this
    Saorview, Ireland’s free Digital TV service, Launches New Website

    Saorview, Ireland's free digital provider has re-launched a new-look website, in a bid to encourage the final remaining Irish TV viewers who have not yet made the move to digital to finally do so.

    The Saorview initiative, spearheaded by RTÉ with the switching-off of their analogue signal last year, will see the State Broadcaster introduce their channels in high definition for the first time early in 2014.

    ...

    http://www.iftn.ie/news/?act1=record&only=1&aid=73&rid=4286625&tpl=archnews&force=1


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    July Rain
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    The Cush wrote: »
    IFTN news article on this

    I'm sure anybody who hasn't switched to saorview by now is perfectly happy without it.


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    Antenna
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    watty wrote: »
    UK Freeview Digital blacked out and all incompatible products between Feb 2008 and October 2010 sold with Sticker "Analogue Only!" Not suitable for Future Irish Digital Service.

    Some pockets of the republic have had useable UK Freeview reception for several years (such as parts of Co. Wexford).
    Could there really have been a ban on indicating if TVs sold in this country would work with UK 'spillover' reception?

    Agree with the last bit ("Not suitable for Future Irish Digital Service")


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    JustAddWater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    A 5 year old child made this! It's vague and confusing especially for non technological people


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    Antenna
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    watty wrote: »
    Also there should have been legislation. There was in France. No incompatible sets sold after October 2010 .

    How feasible really would such a ban have been?

    It would have caused considerable difficulty with retailers near the NI border unless the UK were also to agree to introduce the same ban on MPEG2-only TVs for sale in Northern Ireland at the same time. That was not likely to happen as their main BBC/ITV/C4 channels are expected to be available in MPEG2 on Freeview for years to come.
    People (using Sky/UPC so not needing saorview) would just have been crossing the border to get cheaper TVs. The tuner is never used in a proportion of TVs being sold and such a ban would have denied such users, fully aware of their needs, with cheaper options

    Such a ban would also have meant DVD-Recorders being banned in the republic in 2010 as the digital tuners in them were all MPEG2 only. So even if you just wanted one purely to copy VHS tapes to DVD - you would not get one in the shops.

    I could go on....

    I fully agree that consumers should have been advised if TVs for sale were not going to be suitable for digital terrestrial in the future, as soon as the standard became clear.

    Its a pity that many people dumped perfectly working (but seen as old fashioned) CRTs and replaced with unsuitable (for Irish digital without needing a STB) flatscreen TVs not long before MPEG4 TVs became commonly available. The correct advice then would have been to continue use the old sets a bit longer before replacing them (though could not see retailers happy with anyone giving such advice as it would affect profits in the short term). The CRT sets also gave better pictures with analogue signals than is the case with flatscreens, which was another reason to continue using them until MPEG4 TVs were commonly available as well as the service being on air.


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    Elmo
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    Navarre wrote: »
    In the RTE Archives room where they should have been left at the start of the switchover campaign. What a waste of money they were like a lot of things related to the switchover.
    July Rain wrote: »
    In what way was the campaign a waste of money ? imagine the outrage on Joe Duffy if people's televisions went blank with little warning.

    Is that where Gay Byrne and this website are http://www.goingdigital.ie ?


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    Sam Russell
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    With Ch4 starting to have advertising being sold for the Irish market from 1st Jan next, is it not time for RTE to start pushing Freesat as the way to receive British TV with a particular emphasis in using a London postcode? If this was successful, it would negate Ch4's push into Irish advertising spend as those viewers would not see the adverts directed at an Irish audience.


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    watty
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    ??


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    Elmo
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    With Ch4 starting to have advertising being sold for the Irish market from 1st Jan next, is it not time for RTE to start pushing Freesat as the way to receive British TV with a particular emphasis in using a London postcode? If this was successful, it would negate Ch4's push into Irish advertising spend as those viewers would not see the adverts directed at an Irish audience.

    I have always thought about this.

    I'd say medialink sell ads regardless of if 50% of the audience are watch via Spillover or FTA Sat.


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    The Cush
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    Apogee wrote: »
    Spotted this during ad break for 6.01 news this evening:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-7N8Ip2gow

    A piece from the marketing.ie website on the new Saorview advertising campaign
    Ireland’s ‘free-to-air’ digital provider Saorview has relaunched with a marketing campaign and new-look website aimed at getting consumers to make the switch. Just over a year ago Ireland made the move to digital. The campaign includes a 20-second TV spot promoting a “‘seriously good value” message. It highlights the choice of programmes e on the Saorview, some of which are available in HD.

    Saorview Plus allows users to pause, rewind and record live television. Jim Higgins, brand compliance and business development manager, Saorview, said the campaign was managed by RTÉ central brand and marketing in conjunction with Publicis and Arekibo. The TV commercial was created by Peter McEvoy working directly to the RTE team. To watch the ad, click on http://youtu.be/9-7N8Ip2gow

    http://blog.marketing.ie/?p=14677


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    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    A year on from ASO and Soarview appears to be entering a new phase with the new advertising campaign above and outsourcing their customer service and technical information line. The following recent tender for SAORVIEW Contact Centre Services appeared on the etenders website
    13073 - SAORVIEW Contact Centre Services

    Detailed description
    RTÉ invites submissions, from suitably qualified Tenderers to provide a comprehensive, friendly, accessible, high quality contact centre service to customers requesting information on the SAORVIEW service seven days a week. This is a customer service and technical information line. SAORVIEW will provide the necessary training and information to the winning service provider.

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=71967&B=&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders


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    July Rain
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    The Cush wrote: »
    A year on from ASO and Soarview appears to be entering a new phase with the new advertising campaign above and outsourcing their customer service and technical information line. The following recent tender for SAORVIEW Contact Centre Services appeared on the etenders website

    Why does saorview still need a special helpline? If people need technical help they should be told to ring RTENL/2RN.


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    ei9go
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    The Cush wrote: »
    From their website



    :confused: They advertise series link as a feature but it hasn't been working for a few weeks now???

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87370353#post87370353

    Series link worked fine last night on Room to Improve and Generation War. Recorded them both on my Panasonic DMR XW380 Freeview HD DVD Recorder bought a couple of years ago


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    watty
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    July Rain wrote: »
    Why does saorview still need a special helpline? If people need technical help they should be told to ring RTENL/2RN.

    2RN has no facilities to deal with the ordinary public, likely they practically know personally most of their callers. You'd need a call centre. Nor should 2RN be dealing with the public.


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    The Cush
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    More Saorview outsourcing, just before Christmas RTÉ published a tender for PR and Communications Services to support SAORVIEW on the etenders website
    Short description
    13086 - PR and Communications Services to support SAORVIEW

    Detailed description
    To provide proactive communications support and public relations management for SAORVIEW on an as required basis.

    Response deadline
    14-01-2014 13:00

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=72853&B=&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/publictenders


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