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27-07-2012, 13:54   #1
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Armoured Cars , Tanks & Guns 1916-1924

Just thought i would start a photo/picture thread where posters came put up photos they have of military vechiles both Irish and British dating from the Easter Rising to the Civil War.

No need to debate the politics of the period justput up and share your photos
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28-07-2012, 00:00   #2
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Jeffery quad armoured car in British service on patrol in Belfast September 1920. ( note the Dublin Reg number "RI 4873".
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I've got a ton of pics of Sliabh na mBan taken on a trip to the Curragh back in 2001, but I dare say that with its popularity and recent rebuild on youTube you'll all be posting pics.

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Slight variation.

Attached is a driving licence for Frank Nichols from Brentwood in Essex, a member of 17th (Armoured Car) Battalion, Tank Corps who were based in Marlborough Barracks, Dublin during the Tan War.

His medal group were up for sale a while back

http://www.dnw.co.uk/medals/auctiona...o?itemid=39342

He was in Cork for part of his tour of Ireland. Discharged 21/4/1920.

He had enlisted for service with the Royal Flying Corps but was transferred to the Tank Corps by the army compulsorily.
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The July issue of Military Classic Vehicle magazine has a great article on Irish harmoured cars.

I assume that you don't need a firearms license to go buy it.

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30-07-2012, 23:12   #6
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another few trucks and armoured cars all taken in Dublin.
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these two are taken in Dublin , my guess is that its on Dame Street don't know if its British or Irish. Any ideas ??
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a Free State dispatch rider courtesy of a similar thread from the old Dublin.ie forums.

The civilian registration numbers on military vehicles can be a handy dating tool.

The YI registration is Dublin after April 1921 through to 1927.

RI was in use for Dublin Dec 1903 to April 1921.

For the Belfast Crossley, OI was the Belfast registration prefix from Jan 1904 to 1922.

The following photo in the South Dub Libraries collection is labelled Easter 1916 but the registration number is later than that (plus 2 other dating clues that say it's not Easter 1916)

http://source.southdublinlibraries.i.../2/wm_4639.jpg
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a Free State dispatch rider courtesy of a similar thread from the old Dublin.ie forums.

The civilian registration numbers on military vehicles can be a handy dating tool.

The YI registration is Dublin after April 1921 through to 1927.

RI was in use for Dublin Dec 1903 to April 1921.

For the Belfast Crossley, OI was the Belfast registration prefix from Jan 1904 to 1922.

The following photo in the South Dub Libraries collection is labelled Easter 1916 but the registration number is later than that (plus 2 other dating clues that say it's not Easter 1916)

http://source.southdublinlibraries.i.../2/wm_4639.jpg

That's all very useful information to which I'll add a bit more -

CK = RR armoured cars operated by the BA = wartime registrations.

Later on, six of these were renumbered XI in the north.

Thanks to David Fletcher of the Tank Museum. Bovington, for that info.

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A lot of stuff been printed lately on the Rolls Royce armoured car including the Irish Rolls Royce. That article on the Irish Rolls mentioned by “tac Foley in post 5” July Classic military vehicle magazine written by David Fletcher, I found quit interesting,,, although I did email David Fletcher with some correction.
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RE post 6

First two image “rather than retype further information on what’s going on in the image, your welcome to have a look at my Peerless armoured car blog page. http://peerlessarmouredcar.blogspot.ie/

Image three is a armoured Lancia on Capel street Dublin, crew named “Fernside”



RE post 7

Both images, accident on Dame street Dublin. More information on my armoured Lancia blog page if you’re interested. http://armouredlancia.blogspot.ie/

I also have more Irish military vehicles blog pages if you’re interested drop in have a look “it’s free” http://militaryvehiclesireland.blogspot.ie/
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not a military vehicle but one of the era that Boards.ie members may have come across. Possibly used after some of the military actions of the period and appears to have been in the funeral cortege of Michael Collins

http://www.ivvcc.ie/php/site.php?page=/articles/html/1

I think the IK registration was a Dublin County code used from 1903 to March 1927. Pembroke Urban District Council's fire engine purchased in 1910 was numbered IK 686. Both vehicles are handy as dating reference points.

The Irish Times Book of the Century by Fintan O'Toole has a nice photo of IK 686 with other Fire Brigade vehicles IK 1614, IK 1413 and IK 1414.

From Tim Pat Coogan and George Morrison's book The Irish Civil War with a huge collection of photos :

p 16 a Crossley Tender outside Harcourt railway station carrying Auxilliaries, IK 3033

p84 UVF Motor Cycle Corps - OI 282, IJ 767, BO 1076, OI 2615, OI 497 and then some

p 182/3 Lancia armoured cars pictured at the start of the Civil War next to the artillery piece firing on the Four Courts are registered as OI 9213 (chalked with "We have no time for Truceleers") and OI 9173 (labelled Ashtown). They appear in this image
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...rry/lancia.jpg

Ralph Riccio's "AFV's in Irish Service since 1922" has a nice photo of the "Fernside" armoured car with an anti grenade mesh on top.


Nice image of a Crossley tender NC 1785 here
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....sleyTender.jpg

A Lancia in Belfast with anti-grenade mesh
http://photosales.belfasttelegraph.c...f1rnOTt1LUQ..a
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better picture of a Lancia with cage

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc-burn...ry/6130397840/

NLI has a great range of photos on Flickr that show a number of military vehicles

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlirela...in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlirela...in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlirela...in/photostream

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tank in Limerick with the Royal Welsh/Welch Fusiliers

http://mdonovan.free.fr/rwf/pages/2_rwf_limerick.htm

Also from Limerick, sample Irish Motor Directory listings (I'm keen to see the equivalent for Dublin and Belfast given the number of military vehicles that appear to have been registered in these cities)

http://limerick.ie/history/localstud...cles1912-1914/
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pictures 1 & 2 are from the same raid , i think it my be Talbot Street. no 4 is near to Capel Street as the fruit market can be seen in the background of the photo.
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